Elbonian varieties
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Elbonian varieties
Have noticed that there are various varieties from @Tormato which he has named after the Dilbert cartoon characters from Elbonia.
I know that there are
Elbonian Mudball, which produced a couple of different versions for me last year, now with added tags of North and South (one pink, one dark)
Elbonian Mudslinger , which did nothing for me last season but I have two plants for this year, and
Elbonian Hipdeep, of which I have one growing for this season as a new to me. Plant so far is showing as potato leaf, is this what you expect Tomato?
Are there any others selections bearing the Elbonian tag and could you please provide details here?
I know that there are
Elbonian Mudball, which produced a couple of different versions for me last year, now with added tags of North and South (one pink, one dark)
Elbonian Mudslinger , which did nothing for me last season but I have two plants for this year, and
Elbonian Hipdeep, of which I have one growing for this season as a new to me. Plant so far is showing as potato leaf, is this what you expect Tomato?
Are there any others selections bearing the Elbonian tag and could you please provide details here?
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I think my brain has entered the Elbonian dry season (the time between gardening and the swap), and is currently caked up.
Elbonian Puddle Duck (Miss S's, F3?), and (your discovery, F3?) North Elbonian Pinko are two in the works. I think that I have at least one more, but I'm not sure. After my tomato inventory, sometime soon, I'll know more.
Elbonian Hip Deep should be PL, has always grown very short, here (to about 3 feet), so it may be a determinate. It's always been in a poor location in my garden. Because of that, it might be fairly late, it might not have high production. It often produces boat-shaped beefsteaks, about 14 ounces was my largest. To me, it's one of the few "clean ", not dirty, tasting darks. Therefore, one of the few darks that I like.
Other than the best black tomato that I've ever tried, I'll have to find my notes on Elbonian Mudslinger.
The dark version of Elbonian Mudball that you have is likely what I grew and named, Not being stable though, things could change.
Elbonian Puddle Duck (Miss S's, F3?), and (your discovery, F3?) North Elbonian Pinko are two in the works. I think that I have at least one more, but I'm not sure. After my tomato inventory, sometime soon, I'll know more.
Elbonian Hip Deep should be PL, has always grown very short, here (to about 3 feet), so it may be a determinate. It's always been in a poor location in my garden. Because of that, it might be fairly late, it might not have high production. It often produces boat-shaped beefsteaks, about 14 ounces was my largest. To me, it's one of the few "clean ", not dirty, tasting darks. Therefore, one of the few darks that I like.
Other than the best black tomato that I've ever tried, I'll have to find my notes on Elbonian Mudslinger.
The dark version of Elbonian Mudball that you have is likely what I grew and named, Not being stable though, things could change.
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In this wet season Elbonian Knee Deep is doing very well, pushing 400mm/16 inches high, making it probably the tallest of my plants so far. The cage it was planted in may need some supplementary stakes later in the season, time will tell.
There are two flower clusters below the one pictured with open flowers but too early to tell if fruit have set yet.
There are two flower clusters below the one pictured with open flowers but too early to tell if fruit have set yet.
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Knee, or Hip, Deep?
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Might yet wind up Hip, time will tell.
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Elbonian Knee Deep, grown in cage, would be pushing 1 m/ 3foot 4in tall or maybe a bit more, have not taken tape measure out to see. Fruit are large, dark ribbed and delicious. One pictured around 390g/13.75 oz is typical, but not largest, which unfortunately was grub eaten. Seems to be a bad year for grubs in the district.
Photos taken several days apart
Photos taken several days apart
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Is that a variant of one of the Elbonians, that you're working on?
You have me c
nfused as to whether it is Elbonian Hip Deep, or something new, of yours.
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Sorry @Tormato, It is Elbonian Hip deep, don't know why I keep thinking of as knee deep. Definately one of yours, first year growing it. My bad and apologies
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Elbonian Hip deep and Elbonian Mudslinger tasted today and rated well by all. Definitely will be growing again
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Hip Deep should be mostly stable.
Mudslinger is still nowhere near there. So, I recommend several seedlings to get the correct leaf type, and growing out at least two plants.
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Tormato, what can you tell me about Elbonian Mudball variety, please ?
Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white.
You know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe
Scarlet billows start to spread.
And it shows them pearly white.
You know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe
Scarlet billows start to spread.
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You just had to go there.
http://www.tomatoville.com/showpost.php?p=332725
14 years later, it's at about an F5, thanks to Whwoz.

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@Danny What I grew last year as Elbonian Mudball was two plants, one dark, one pink, both delicious. At this stage one is tagged North, the other south simply because my garden beds run north south and plants were side by side. More information can be found in the Garden of Woz glog. Have grown them again this year but with our crazy weather and 3 weeks of migraine headaches and who knows how much other fruit to preserve, the tomatoes have taken a bit of a back seat this season. More F5 seed will be shortly sent to Tormato of both of last years clones and as I continue the cleanup of this year's plants, I will be looking for them to taste a save seeds again. The Four clones I have grown from the Elbonian cross (2 X Mudball, Mudslinger and Hip Deep) have all been very good tomatoes.Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:16 amYou just had to go there.
http://www.tomatoville.com/showpost.php?p=332725
14 years later, it's at about an F5, thanks to Whwoz.![]()
Need to try a puddle duck sometime.
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We're calling one "North Elbonian Pinko", right?
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.

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While I can send Puddle Duck F3, I'm unsure at this point what varieties I'll be planting this year. Perhaps you should put in a general request for F4 seed in late July/early August?
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I sow my seed around the end of July and start of August @TormatoTormato wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:37 amWhile I can send Puddle Duck F3, I'm unsure at this point what varieties I'll be planting this year. Perhaps you should put in a general request for F4 seed in late July/early August?