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Haha yeah
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I haven't figured out my own tomato list, but I did choose seeds for the local master gardener seedling sale, and I plan to grow some of these myself, too. I have all the seeds in hand except the ones from Bene Seeds. I agreed to coordinate the sale with one other person last year, and she encouraged me to choose lots of new-to-the-sale varieties. So only 7 remain on the list from 2 years ago, when only 20 varieties were offered. (The other unstarred varieties were new last year and got rave reviews.) I added a bigger selection of container and cherry varieties, and we have quite a few modern OPs (from Artisan Seeds, Cream of the Crop, Wild Boar Farms, Seed rEvolution Now, etc). We grow the same number of seedlings (1100-1200) and, last year, sold about the same number (about 700) as previous years.
*new to the sale
Large/Medium Tomatoes
African Queen
Arkansas Traveler
*Beefy Red
*Belmonte Pear
Benevento F1
*Bo Mango
Cherokee Purple
Girl Girl's Weird Thing
Hawaiian Pineapple
*Kellogg's Breakfast
*Janet's Jacinthe Jewel
Legend
Pink Berkeley Tie-Dye
Polaris
*Pruden’s Purple
*Raspberry Lyanna
Rugby F1
*Taxi
Woodle Orange
Cherry/Grape Tomatoes
*California Sungold
*Cherry Falls
Flaming Burst
*Green Bee F1
Green Tiger
Indigo Cherry Drops
*Magic Bullet
Maglia Rosa
*Pink Champagne
Prairie Fire
Rosella cherry
*Sunrise Bumble Bee
*Sweet Aperitif
*Taste Patio
*Tommy Toe
*new to the sale
Large/Medium Tomatoes
African Queen
Arkansas Traveler
*Beefy Red
*Belmonte Pear
Benevento F1
*Bo Mango
Cherokee Purple
Girl Girl's Weird Thing
Hawaiian Pineapple
*Kellogg's Breakfast
*Janet's Jacinthe Jewel
Legend
Pink Berkeley Tie-Dye
Polaris
*Pruden’s Purple
*Raspberry Lyanna
Rugby F1
*Taxi
Woodle Orange
Cherry/Grape Tomatoes
*California Sungold
*Cherry Falls
Flaming Burst
*Green Bee F1
Green Tiger
Indigo Cherry Drops
*Magic Bullet
Maglia Rosa
*Pink Champagne
Prairie Fire
Rosella cherry
*Sunrise Bumble Bee
*Sweet Aperitif
*Taste Patio
*Tommy Toe
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The Gotchhabitat-gardener wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:09 pm We grow the same number of seedlings (1100-1200) and, last year,
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That’s really not a lot of seedlings…
We have access to a commercial greenhouse and lath house, and it takes us (7-9 volunteers) only a couple hours to pot up 1100 seedlings once they’re germinated. We start with one pot per variety (dense seeding).
We have access to a commercial greenhouse and lath house, and it takes us (7-9 volunteers) only a couple hours to pot up 1100 seedlings once they’re germinated. We start with one pot per variety (dense seeding).
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It is in these here parts; I told the lovely and long suffering Mrs. Gotch I would cut back....this season....from the ~67 plants from last season.
When she inquires, I'll refer to yer totals....
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Forks? Is that how you separate seedlings?habitat-gardener wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:08 pm That’s really not a lot of seedlings…
We have access to a commercial greenhouse and lath house, and it takes us (7-9 volunteers) only a couple hours to pot up 1100 seedlings once they’re germinated. We start with one pot per variety (dense seeding).
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A far cry from the 100+ I use to grow!
Baby Grape OP
Black Brandywine
Blue Ridge Black
Bradley
Carolina Dusk
Chapman
Chocolate Cherry
Cowboy
Domingo
Elf Tears
Forever Frances
GGRG -GWR- an unnamed cross
Green Gables
Kosovo
Ludmilla's Pink Heart
Maggie Mater
OPOSO - orange unnamed cross
Pomodoro Cuore Antico di Acqui Terme
Principe Borghese
Santa Maria
Solar Flare
Sun Gold F1
Super Sioux - the very first tomato I grew! (1969)
Sweet Sister Sunny
TexKan Sweetheart
Baby Grape OP
Black Brandywine
Blue Ridge Black
Bradley
Carolina Dusk
Chapman
Chocolate Cherry
Cowboy
Domingo
Elf Tears
Forever Frances
GGRG -GWR- an unnamed cross
Green Gables
Kosovo
Ludmilla's Pink Heart
Maggie Mater
OPOSO - orange unnamed cross
Pomodoro Cuore Antico di Acqui Terme
Principe Borghese
Santa Maria
Solar Flare
Sun Gold F1
Super Sioux - the very first tomato I grew! (1969)
Sweet Sister Sunny
TexKan Sweetheart
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Mostly F1s this year, as an experiment.
In the greenhouse:
Big Daddy F1
Bountiful F1
Burlesque F1
GGWT/Daniel Burson/Indian Stripe
Pink Honeymoon F1
Polaris
Rose Crush F1
Y Ddraig Goch F1
Outdoors:
Cocktail Crush F1
Crimson Crush F1
Indeterminate Cherries:
Black Moon F1
Crokini F1
Merrygold F1
Orange Paruche
Rubylicious F1
Sparky XSL F1
Toddler F1
Determinate Cherries:
Celano F1
Lizzano F1
Losetto F1
Orangeto F1
Romello F1
Plums:
Nagina F1
Super Mama F1
In the greenhouse:
Big Daddy F1
Bountiful F1
Burlesque F1
GGWT/Daniel Burson/Indian Stripe
Pink Honeymoon F1
Polaris
Rose Crush F1
Y Ddraig Goch F1
Outdoors:
Cocktail Crush F1
Crimson Crush F1
Indeterminate Cherries:
Black Moon F1
Crokini F1
Merrygold F1
Orange Paruche
Rubylicious F1
Sparky XSL F1
Toddler F1
Determinate Cherries:
Celano F1
Lizzano F1
Losetto F1
Orangeto F1
Romello F1
Plums:
Nagina F1
Super Mama F1
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I have to stop reading other people's lists. I keep seeing neat new varieties I'm tempted to try when I already have limited space to grow. "Elf Tears" sounds cool, @patihum. Have you grown that one before?
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It may be too late.....
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Agreed for the above statement haha
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Nope! It was an add on to my already finished list after I was gifted the seeds. Couldn't resist the name plus the description was intriguing.
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Where it stands as of today (***1st time trial):
Ananas Noire
Big Bubba***
Big Zac Hybrid
Black Brandywine***
Box Car Willie
Cornue des Andes Heirloom
Daniel Burson
Green Giant***
Greenbush Italian Heirloom
Guido Heirloom
Hillbilly
Inzhir Rozovyi
Italian Gold
Jersey Devil
Kelloggs Breakfast***
Kentucky Beefsteak
King Kong
Mortgage Lifter/Radiator Charlie
Mountain Merit
Mountain Magic
Mrs. Benson***
Mushroom Basket
Namio Heirloom
Old German
Pinkl Berkeley Tie Dye***
Pink Gift/Rosov Dar
Pink Magic
Red Sausage
Santa Maria Heirloom
Sheboygan Heirloom
Super Sauce Hybrid***
Uncle Steve's Italian
Virginia Sweets***
Yaqui Hybrid
Zapotec Oaxacan
The Gotch
Ananas Noire
Big Bubba***
Big Zac Hybrid
Black Brandywine***
Box Car Willie
Cornue des Andes Heirloom
Daniel Burson
Green Giant***
Greenbush Italian Heirloom
Guido Heirloom
Hillbilly
Inzhir Rozovyi
Italian Gold
Jersey Devil
Kelloggs Breakfast***
Kentucky Beefsteak
King Kong
Mortgage Lifter/Radiator Charlie
Mountain Merit
Mountain Magic
Mrs. Benson***
Mushroom Basket
Namio Heirloom
Old German
Pinkl Berkeley Tie Dye***
Pink Gift/Rosov Dar
Pink Magic
Red Sausage
Santa Maria Heirloom
Sheboygan Heirloom
Super Sauce Hybrid***
Uncle Steve's Italian
Virginia Sweets***
Yaqui Hybrid
Zapotec Oaxacan
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Since many are putting their 2024 tomato list on this thread I thought I would include my own. I have 39 seedlings now, two plants of most of the varieties and each in their own container except Giant Belgium as those were still too small to separate. Some of the 39 are likely to be given away to fellow local gardeners.
** means a new one for me.
Pink tomatoes
Missouri Pink Love Apple**
Aunt Ginny’s Purple**
Brandywine Cowlick’s**
Pruden’s Purple
Barlow’s Jap**
Dester
Hoy
Giant Belgium**
Reds
Aker’s West Virginia**
Cuostralee**
Red Barn**
Aussie
Beefmaster (hybrid)
Dark
Japanese Black Trifele
Carbon
Black From Tula**
Black Krim
Yellow/Orange/White/Anthro
Dr. Wyche’s Yellow**
Sart Roloise**
Small fruited Paste/Grape/Cherry
Principe Borghese
A. Grappoli D’ Inverno**
Creamsicle Grape**
Gardener’s Sweetheart**
Pandorino (hybrid)**
The small fruited ones are all supposed to be good dehydrated.
** means a new one for me.
Pink tomatoes
Missouri Pink Love Apple**
Aunt Ginny’s Purple**
Brandywine Cowlick’s**
Pruden’s Purple
Barlow’s Jap**
Dester
Hoy
Giant Belgium**
Reds
Aker’s West Virginia**
Cuostralee**
Red Barn**
Aussie
Beefmaster (hybrid)
Dark
Japanese Black Trifele
Carbon
Black From Tula**
Black Krim
Yellow/Orange/White/Anthro
Dr. Wyche’s Yellow**
Sart Roloise**
Small fruited Paste/Grape/Cherry
Principe Borghese
A. Grappoli D’ Inverno**
Creamsicle Grape**
Gardener’s Sweetheart**
Pandorino (hybrid)**
The small fruited ones are all supposed to be good dehydrated.
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It amazes me how many tomato plants many of you grow. Just 12 plants is enough for us for fresh eating, canning different things, freezing, and giving away extra fruits. I should grow fewer but want to taste and compare different varieties.
2024 line up: All except Black Krim and Black From Tula are new to me. I'm comparing them to similar varieties this year.
BLACK/DARK:
Black Krim
BKX
Black From Tula
Spudatula
Roger's Best Black
Mavitanskite
HEARTS - BLACK/DARK:
Brad's Black Heart
Dwarf Purple Heart (bred from Dwarf Wild Fred x Brad's Black Heart)
PASTE:
Abbattista
Ernie's Plump
Romeo
Uncle Steve Italian Plum
BONUS PASTE:
I'm not sure if this is Opalka or Cow's Tit or a sport of one of those. I collected seeds in 2022 from what I think was the Opalka cage but it may have been a branch from Cow's Tit that crept over. The fruit was much larger and much sweeter than all other fruits from those two varieties. I'm curious if this was just variation in fruit or if the seeds will produce the same as that very sweet large tomato.
2024 line up: All except Black Krim and Black From Tula are new to me. I'm comparing them to similar varieties this year.
BLACK/DARK:
Black Krim
BKX
Black From Tula
Spudatula
Roger's Best Black
Mavitanskite
HEARTS - BLACK/DARK:
Brad's Black Heart
Dwarf Purple Heart (bred from Dwarf Wild Fred x Brad's Black Heart)
PASTE:
Abbattista
Ernie's Plump
Romeo
Uncle Steve Italian Plum
BONUS PASTE:
I'm not sure if this is Opalka or Cow's Tit or a sport of one of those. I collected seeds in 2022 from what I think was the Opalka cage but it may have been a branch from Cow's Tit that crept over. The fruit was much larger and much sweeter than all other fruits from those two varieties. I'm curious if this was just variation in fruit or if the seeds will produce the same as that very sweet large tomato.
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I think I finally decided on this years list
2 varities that my partner requires I grow every year:
sungold
cherokee purple
Old seeds from 2010 that I am growing out to save new seeds (if they sprout):
ace 55
yellow brandywine
ponderosa pink
druzba
marvel stripe
german johnson
arkansas traveler
pink oxheart
hillbilly
black krim
2 varities that my partner requires I grow every year:
sungold
cherokee purple
Old seeds from 2010 that I am growing out to save new seeds (if they sprout):
ace 55
yellow brandywine
ponderosa pink
druzba
marvel stripe
german johnson
arkansas traveler
pink oxheart
hillbilly
black krim
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You realize that the TJ Enablers will see limiting your plants to 12 as a challenge...WoodSprite wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:23 pm JUST 12 PLANTS is enough for us for fresh eating, canning different things, freezing, and giving away extra fruits. (bolds/caps/italics added)
Is the Uncle Steve Italian Plum different than Uncle Steve's Italian?
EDIT: Looks like Keith in Calumet (@rxkeith here) fleshes that out--http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=212
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Yep. I actually finally got to the point that I was satisfied with growing 3 tomato plants for fresh eating and was going to reduce to just 2 plants and buy my tomatoes for canning from the farmers' market. It would have been much easier on me physically as I'm not healthy and struggle to garden.Cornelius_Gotchberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:39 amYou realize that the TJ Enablers will see limiting your plants to 12 as a challenge...WoodSprite wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:23 pm JUST 12 PLANTS is enough for us for fresh eating, canning different things, freezing, and giving away extra fruits. (bolds/caps/italics added)
Then I joined the MMMM swap and that plan went to hell. LOL! I'm excited to try lots of black tomatoes that I had only read about and also large-fruited paste tomatoes. (I did the same in 2023 but am growing different ones this year.) Next year I'm growing pink slicers and different paste tomatoes. The next year I'm likely growing all pink and red oxhearts. I even have varieties picked for the next few years after that but haven't decided which years to grow them.
Since I keep notes on my harvests for everything I grow, it's a bit overwhelming to grow so many varieties (not just tomatoes but pretty much every crop I grow). 2-3 tomato plants is easier but 12-14 is so much more fun. I don't think I'd survive growing as many as others here grow. It would be fun for a few months but then it would kill me. (I'm only half joking.)
They are different. Just a week or so ago I was trying to answer that question, too. I did searches (via Google, TJ, TV, GW). At either TJ or TV I found an old post from Tatiana asking the same question since she received seeds with both names. rxkeith and Treefrog FL both responded. They each introduced one of them.Cornelius_Gotchberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:39 am Is the Uncle Steve Italian Plum different than Uncle Steve's Italian?
Here are my notes on them, gleaned from different posts at TJ and/or TV.
Tomato (Paste) - Uncle Steve's Italian Plum (22/23 MMMM) - 75-80 d. 6-12 oz. Red. Paste. Good old-fashion taste leaning towards acidic. Meaty. Not dry (some juice). Good for eating fresh, cooking, sauce, canning. Wispy. RL. Indet. Heirloom (Sicily). (Keith (rxkeith) in MI introduced it. His great uncle Steve Messina brought it to US from Sicily in early 1900's. Description is from Keith.)
Tomato (Heart) - Uncle Steve's Oxheart (want) - 70-80? d. 8-32 oz. Large (16-32 oz) early on then smaller (8+ oz) later. Red. Very few seeds. Not wispy. RL. Indet. Heirloom (Italy). ("Treefrog FL" from TV introduced it before 2006 at either GW or TV. His uncle Steve moved from Filicudi, Italy, to US when he as a young boy. He worked on developing this tomato in Massachusetts during the late 1930s. It was grown by all the old Italians in the family for years.)
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Aahhh crud. You already found that post. I just now saw that.
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Round 1 included:
Amelia (fusarium race 3 resistant)
Buffalosun (fusarium race 3 resistant)
Black Krim
Flamme
Kim’s Civil War Oxheart
Principe Borghese
Punta Banda
Queen of the Night (did great last year)
Sweet scarlet dwarf
Uluru ochre (dwarf)
Viva Italia (highly productive but does succumb to fusarium by mid-June in Central Texas)
Still deciding what else to start this week!
Amelia (fusarium race 3 resistant)
Buffalosun (fusarium race 3 resistant)
Black Krim
Flamme
Kim’s Civil War Oxheart
Principe Borghese
Punta Banda
Queen of the Night (did great last year)
Sweet scarlet dwarf
Uluru ochre (dwarf)
Viva Italia (highly productive but does succumb to fusarium by mid-June in Central Texas)
Still deciding what else to start this week!
Clay soil in the Texas Hill Country, Zone 9b-ish
Yearly precipitation: 35 inches
Yearly precipitation: 35 inches