Crossing with Solanum habrochaites (another POV)

[Mark_Thompson]

I may just grow unstable wild mixes exclusively. Planting seeds is so much more fun when I don’t know what’s gonna come up. Planting seeds from this fruit, KBX mother, got nine sprouted, five of them PL. I’ll see where I’m at for space and either grow out all nine, or just the PL.

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[Mark_Thompson]

Super tasty yet again. Different than a domestic tomato, I still taste a hint of cucumber, but I may be trippin

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[bower]

There's just no end to the flavors that are possible with tomatoes. I've tasted hints of different melons, why not cuke? Very cool. No trippin.

[Mark_Thompson]

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[Mark_Thompson]

A little more variety coming from the Habro Heart. This one went yellow, didn’t show the habro stripes as much. Same size and shape (fused fruit in the back). Foliage is more robust, less wispy. Flavor more tomato less sweet. And all for naught as it had no seeds inside. Little bitty almost seeds with green gel.

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[Homegrwoninillinois]

Thank you! I received your thoughtful package today.

[Mark_Thompson]

Still harvesting these. Lot of fruits from one wispy plant.

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[Doffer]

Stripes are back

[Wildcat82]

On the Open Source Plant Breeding.org website, they mentioned that J & L Gardens do a lot of experimenting with S. habrochaites (L. Hirsutum) varieties.
https://opensourceplantbreeding.org/for ... 2.225.html

If I had more land, I'd buy their S. Habro crossed seeds and play around making my own crosses.

Copper Currant - This new cherry tomato is from our Ambrosia line crossed back to a wild relative. (L.hirsutum) Sweet red flesh surrounds the green gel at the center producing the translucent copper color. These are registering some of the highest sugar (brix) levels we've recorded in a tomato. Copper Currants are about 5/8 of an inch in diameter and borne in wild profusion on strong 7 foot indeterminate plants, ripening in about 65 days. Regular-leaved.
https://jandlgardens.com/xencart/index. ... ecov51oss1

Wilderness - I try to release a new wild cross every season or two. This one is a cross out of LA1777, an S. habrochaites accension collected in Peru in the 70's and believed to be resistant to curly-top virus and my Ambrosia Orange, which carries the sucrose gene.The 3/4"fruit is surprisingly sweet and an unusual dusky orange color. Production is quite good on a sprawling, multi-branched vine. The variety should be stable, but I welcome any information on your experience with the cross. 70 days. 40 seeds per packet.
https://jandlgardens.com/xencart/index. ... ecov51oss1

Wild Child - This is a dwarf version of a cross I originally made to LA1777, a wild tomato species. It bears loads of pinkish orange cherries on a mounded plant about 1 foot tall. By midseason, it looks like there are more tomatoes than leaves. The flavor is fresh and crisp without the musky aroma of the wild parent. Wild Child inherits resistance to blight and cold tolerance from LA1777. The particulars of the genetics would indicate it is stable, but these lines have tricked me before.
http://jandlgardens.com/xencart/index.p ... cts_id=577

Weight in Gold – Weight in Gold is of hirsutum and esculentum. I managed a dozen lines over a decade to arrive at this variety. You get the hyper-vigor of a cross species and remarkable production of slightly russeted and fuzzy, orange/red fruit with fine tomato flavor and high brix levels. The only drawback is the ripe fruit falls as in wild species, but you can stay on top of that. The foliage of the huge vines is unusual and the plant shows some frost tolerance. This line is at F5 now without any noticable variation the last two seasons. Let me know if you see anything off-type.
https://jandlgardens.com/xencart/index. ... ht+in+Gold

Dwarf hisutum cross (Jeepers) - This is the parent of a number of different lines I am working on. It is a fine tomato is it's own right. The potato-leaved plants are very early producers of bunches of large grape tomatoes with rich flavor and the ability to hold on the vine for a long time. The bright green plants reach about 30 inches and will bear the very first tomatoes in the garden at about 50 days. It has shown good disease resistance as well. I will send about 30 seeds of this unusual strain.
https://jandlgardens.com/xencart/index. ... ecov51oss1

[Mark_Thompson]

Yeah love J and L. I emailed them a picture of the habro heart after I made a seed order from them. Lee wrote back a very encouraging email, pretty much made my day. Copper Currant has been an excellent one for me.

[Wildcat82]

Yeah love J and L. I emailed them a picture of the habro heart after I made a seed order from them. Lee wrote back a very encouraging email, pretty much made my day. Copper Currant has been an excellent one for me.

On my growlog I mentioned that I'm scouting for the hairiest/wooliest varieties for their mite deterrence. I assume these varieties would have some L. Hirsutum parentage. I may do a growout of the woolly types listed at HR seeds this Fall.

Do have any recommendations?

[Mark_Thompson]

@Wildcat82 The only wooly I’ve grown is Wooly Kate Yellow. Wasn’t real impressed with vigor or fruits but it was unique.

[Horna]

Yeah love J and L. I emailed them a picture of the habro heart after I made a seed order from them. Lee wrote back a very encouraging email, pretty much made my day. Copper Currant has been an excellent one for me.

On my growlog I mentioned that I'm scouting for the hairiest/wooliest varieties for their mite deterrence. I assume these varieties would have some L. Hirsutum parentage. I may do a growout of the woolly types listed at HR seeds this Fall.

Do have any recommendations?

This thread listed some accessions with notable arthropod resistance https://opensourceplantbreeding.org/for ... 525.0.html

[Mark_Thompson]

@Wildcat82 Re: your last post on my grow log, I haven’t really been trying to find size, but yeah the majority of the fruits I’ve been seeing at 1/4 habrochaites are medium sized, too small to be considered proper slicers. And with how many of them don’t set fruit at all I think I would need a pretty huge grow out to even have a chance at finding any size.

[Mark_Thompson]

@Wildcat82 You are just as bad of an influence as frosti or bower Now I want a big fruited habro cross. I planted out all my remaining seeds from this packet, gonna try squeeze forty or so into one of my beds and look for some size. Fingers crossed…

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[Wildcat82]

You're welcome Mark . Let's hope you get some nice slicers. Also I would be interested if you can get any really woolly mutants in your grow out.

Right now I've 12 woolly varieties percolating under grow lights - they're furry little things. According to Grok, Scheherazade has an estimated Solanum habrochaites genetics lineage of 30-50%. I'll let you know how they taste, assuming I get some production before the summer heat shuts everything down.