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Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:08 pm

Amish Paste

These grow short even in cage. And pack on the fruit. And they are ok for fresh slicing, good for salad, and great for sauce.

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The two cages in the center are each amish paste triples. 3 plants per cage. See how low they stayed compared to all the other indeterminates?

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Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:16 pm

@JRinPA Good to know! I just got some amish paste seeds, so may give them a try. It's tough to see how you cage these from this picture. how do you use 1 cage for 3 plants??? what do you use for your cage? Is it remesh or something else?
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Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:41 am

I'm hearing more and more about the huge production from Favorite de Bretagne.

In a green-striped gold tomato (with green flesh?), elongated pointy plum shaped, multi-use, would your customers go for it? I have seeds.

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Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:23 pm

Tormahto wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:41 am I'm hearing more and more about the huge production from Favorite de Bretagne.

In a green-striped gold tomato (with green flesh?), elongated pointy plum shaped, multi-use, would your customers go for it? I have seeds.
Some folks may go for this. I would not plant the whole garden with it, but if it is prolific in a small space it's worth trying. I am planting a whole bunch of round red globes in the back, so we can mix it up a little bit with some stripey green ones in the front. I will PM you.

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:51 am

CtGrower wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:23 pm
Tormahto wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:41 am I'm hearing more and more about the huge production from Favorite de Bretagne.

In a green-striped gold tomato (with green flesh?), elongated pointy plum shaped, multi-use, would your customers go for it? I have seeds.
Some folks may go for this. I would not plant the whole garden with it, but if it is prolific in a small space it's worth trying. I am planting a whole bunch of round red globes in the back, so we can mix it up a little bit with some stripey green ones in the front. I will PM you.
I don't know what I was thinking.. there is no way the pantry folks will go for this. Thanks for the offer? :lol:

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Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:51 pm

CtGrower wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:16 pm @JRinPA Good to know! I just got some amish paste seeds, so may give them a try. It's tough to see how you cage these from this picture. how do you use 1 cage for 3 plants??? what do you use for your cage? Is it remesh or something else?
thanks,
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i learned from someone on here about planting 3 tomatoes around the rim under a crw cage. in that row i have one drip tape down the center of the raised row. i put 3 plants in trenched so the root ball is toward/under the drip tape, but good separation of the plants on the surface. careful not to spike the buried stems with the cage spikes. . the cage has about 10 vertical wires so 10 lanes. i grow 3 or 4 stems from each plant to fill the cage with one stem every 6 inches. each stem is clipped on to an upright. the cages are 7ft which is 1.5 regular height. one rebar to windward to support each cage.

the amish paste barely made 5ft, if that. they had a heavy yield thouh. they sem to have a short internode length. this particular garden patch gets little morning or late afternoon sun.

i plant most of my tomatoes at 6 in stem spacing. with these triple plant cages i get 3x the root system to support the plants. each root only supports 3 stems so bigger fruit. and if a plant goes bad, pulling that one plant does not lose/waste the entire cage space for the remaining season.

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Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:45 am

@JRinPA Interesting.. Thank you for the very descriptive explanation. I can understand exactly what you mean. 3 plants in such a tight space! Your plants look healthy in this picture! I would be concerned about disease from not enough airflow. Do you experience that with this close growing? I have not tried Concrete reinforced wire cages yet (we call it remesh also).

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Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:21 pm

last year that patch was extraordinarily healthyy. cages were bleached. didnt rain much. black plastic mulch on the walkways holding down dirt splashes a nd weeds.

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Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:59 pm

Second the Amish Paste, a WESconsin variety!

Yaqui Hybrid (https://tomatogrowers.com/products/yaqui-vffna-hybrid) are a shorter determinate, that cranks out lots of VERY firm pasters, which store well.

If we have room for an extra plant, it would most likely be a Yaqui.

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Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:35 pm

JRinPA wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:21 pm last year that patch was extraordinarily healthyy. cages were bleached. didnt rain much. black plastic mulch on the walkways holding down dirt splashes a nd weeds.
Thanks @JRinPA I think I will try this somewhere. Now.. where is the big question!

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Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:50 pm

Cornelius_Gotchberg wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:59 pm Second the Amish Paste, a WESconsin variety!

Yaqui Hybrid (https://tomatogrowers.com/products/yaqui-vffna-hybrid) are a shorter determinate, that cranks out lots of VERY firm pasters, which store well.

If we have room for an extra plant, it would most likely be a Yaqui.

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Thanks for thumbs up on Amish Paste @Cornelius_Gotchberg , but... you did have to add just one more tomato to my ever expanding list with Yaqui!! :lol: Too many tomatoes! You may say...Surely you can fit just one more? (And I keep on thinking of the MP with just one more wafer thin mint). Is there a corollary with tomatoes??

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:21 am

CtGrower wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:50 pmThanks for thumbs up on Amish Paste @Cornelius_Gotchberg , but... you did have to add just one more tomato to my ever expanding list with Yaqui!!
Being new here, and not familiar with the...um...apprehension you's may expect when checking yer mail (especially from 53702-5428 & 01085-1763 zip codes!) as the weather warms. Put another way; USE PENCIL when compiling yer 2025 grow list...
CtGrower wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:50 pm Too many tomatoes! You may say...Surely you can fit just one more? (And I keep on thinking of the MP with just one more wafer thin mint). IS THERE A COLLOLLARY WITH TOMATOES?? (bolds/caps/italics mine)
Not to put too fine a point to it...um...NO; neither with TJers generally, nor TJ Enablers (you's know who you's are!) specifically!

Curious; you's ever tried Namio Heirloom (search.php?keywords=Namio+Heirloom)...?

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:31 am

@Cornelius_Gotchberg Not too many you say (as you add one more :lol: ) No, I have not heard of Namio Heirloom. It does look good. BLT's also look good!!

Thanks for the coaching for the new TJ'er. I can see pencil is a good idea in general! I keep on picking up seed packs every time I pass a rack, even though I have no rational need for them!!

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:58 pm

CtGrower wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:31 amI KEEP ON PICKING UP SEED PACKS EVERY TIME I PASS A RACK, even though I have no rational need for them!! (bolds/caps/italics mine)
I have some good news and some bad news; the good news is that TJ Enablers view infidelity (acquiring seeds outside the...um...family) as the one unpardonable sin.

The bad news? I should've told you's sooner...

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pm

Cornelius_Gotchberg wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:58 pm
CtGrower wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:31 amI KEEP ON PICKING UP SEED PACKS EVERY TIME I PASS A RACK, even though I have no rational need for them!! (bolds/caps/italics mine)
I have some good news and some bad news; the good news is that TJ Enablers view infidelity (acquiring seeds outside the...um...family) as the one unpardonable sin.

The bad news? I should've told you's sooner...

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:41 pm

MissS wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:33 pmNot so! I firmly believe in purchasing at least 50% of your seed to keep our seed vendors alive and thriving.
Point taken, shoulda pondered that there thought a tad further.

FWIW, I was referring to store bought seed from racks and say this as someone who serviced/sold for Northrup King/Retail Packet Seed Division.

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