2024/2025 arrivals and departures
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Starting to worry mine was supposed to be there by the 15th or a few days later due to weather... hope it makes it there soon.
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It arrived.
I've been having health issues, nothing serious, just cold and flu like symptoms. Then a snow storm comes in, while my neighbor decides to tune up the snowblower, and puts it out of commission. So, I clear three driveways with a shovel, while still sick. A few days later, after the muscles are no longer sore, I finally could feel that my back is basically out, which means only a few hours of sleep a night.
Now after about 10 days, I'm just getting back to the swap. I've now set it up so that I can work while standing up, as I can't sit down for any length of time. There must be about half a dozen packages that have arrived since about the 15th. I hopefully will get some packages of participants from AZ, CA and FL out in a couple of days.
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Sounds like you are better, but still not feeling great. let me know if there is anything I can help with.
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Tormahto, I'm really sorry to hear you've been thru the ringer again and totally sympathize! Just when things are going ok, whammo! The pain and misery. I hope each day that passes you feel better.
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Feel better soon and don't push yourself to hard. Take time to recover. We all understand
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It's not possible to push myself too hard.OswaldAcres wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:57 pm Feel better soon and don't push yourself to hard. Take time to recover. We all understand
If I do, I start making mistakes, like spilling spinach seeds on the hardwood floor, and stepping on them either barefoot or in thin socks, early in the morning. It's almost as bad as stepping on Legos.
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I start worrying a bit... Are you ok, tormato?
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Day to day, OK, or not so OK (working at half speed).
I'm glad you posted. I'm setting aside variegated tomatoes as I find them. I also have some variegated peppers (all are hot, I think) and variegated lettuce of an unknown variety, if you'd like them.
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Hope you feel better soon. No problem If you are not in time for sewing. Seeds are fine for several years!
I love everything variegated, thank you!
I love everything variegated, thank you!
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Get well soon! I tune up my snow blower in August or September when the weather is nice--no indoor workbench at my house. Now, it is just sitting there in my garage waiting to be used. We have received virtually no snow to speak of this winter. January was the second driest on record.Tormahto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:01 pmIt arrived.
I've been having health issues, nothing serious, just cold and flu like symptoms. Then a snow storm comes in, while my neighbor decides to tune up the snowblower, and puts it out of commission. So, I clear three driveways with a shovel, while still sick. A few days later, after the muscles are no longer sore, I finally could feel that my back is basically out, which means only a few hours of sleep a night.
Now after about 10 days, I'm just getting back to the swap. I've now set it up so that I can work while standing up, as I can't sit down for any length of time. There must be about half a dozen packages that have arrived since about the 15th. I hopefully will get some packages of participants from AZ, CA and FL out in a couple of days.
I shouldn't speak. Now we'll get hammered.
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It's rough getting old! I too am accumulating my share of health problems and we are not amused! But we do the best we can, right? Please don't push it for my sake. I've got enough to plant both here and the pantry, some of which will come from last year's swap.
Come gather 'round people / Wherever you roam / And admit that the waters
Around you have grown / And accept it that soon / You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin'/ And you better start swimmin' / Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin' / Bob Dylan
Around you have grown / And accept it that soon / You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin'/ And you better start swimmin' / Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin' / Bob Dylan
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Back to back years of being slowed down, means that I will likely have to make changes for the next MMMM.
One of them will likely be filling much of a wish list over the course of the spring, summer and fall. Once this swap is done, I will post an inventory of everything left over. I'm hoping that many people will choose the bulk of their wish lists from that inventory, and then top off their wish lists with a dozen or two new arrivals late this year.
I also may send out multiple Everything But The Kitchen Sink Swap boxes, if there is enough positive feedback from this year's swap.
One of them will likely be filling much of a wish list over the course of the spring, summer and fall. Once this swap is done, I will post an inventory of everything left over. I'm hoping that many people will choose the bulk of their wish lists from that inventory, and then top off their wish lists with a dozen or two new arrivals late this year.
I also may send out multiple Everything But The Kitchen Sink Swap boxes, if there is enough positive feedback from this year's swap.
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Would establishing a firm cut off date for sending seeds in help? I can't imagine how you can handle an erratic flow of incoming stuff while trying to get stuff ready to send out. Maybe send in by X or wait until next year?
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Ask MissS, as her packages just arrived a couple of days ago.

Doing three swaps, and initially not recording participants who joined more than one, has been the hard part to handle. The smoothest part has been the EBTKS swap (except for finding all mailing addresses), as I have to inventory everything to know what I have and how much I have. While inventorying, selected varieties are put in the large box, killing two Birdie Rouges with one stone.
While I don't like sending packages out very late, participants should realize that if things melt down, here, their back-up plans should be to consider that these swap seeds (indoor starts) may have to be for the 2026 garden. There are a few participants' that specifically plan for 2026, with the bonus that they might be able to sow some seeds, especially the ones that are not started indoors, in 2025.
This year's swap has brought in many people from Tomato Lovers Collective & Swap, hopefully no more than I can handle. But, a few of those participants have pointed out, to me, that they come from TLC and other groups, too. If the word spreads to the other groups, I'll either go to a spring to fall packaging of the bulk of people's wish lists, adding a few more varieties just before shipping packages out. Or, I'll have to do a cut-off to the number of participants. This year, I'm just committed to those who've already joined.
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Tormato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:47 pmAsk MissS, as her packages just arrived a couple of days ago.Or, look at posts in this thread, dated past November 20th, as that is the unofficial cut-off date. Every year, packages arrive later and later. and there ain't no stopping it.
Doing three swaps, and initially not recording participants who joined more than one, has been the hard part to handle. The smoothest part has been the EBTKS swap (except for finding all mailing addresses), as I have to inventory everything to know what I have and how much I have. While inventorying, selected varieties are put in the large box, killing two Birdie Rouges with one stone.
While I don't like sending packages out very late, participants should realize that if things melt down, here, their back-up plans should be to consider that these swap seeds (indoor starts) may have to be for the 2026 garden. There are a few participants' that specifically plan for 2026, with the bonus that they might be able to sow some seeds, especially the ones that are not started indoors, in 2025.
This year's swap has brought in many people from Tomato Lovers Collective & Swap, hopefully no more than I can handle. But, a few of those participants have pointed out, to me, that they come from TLC and other groups, too. If the word spreads to the other groups, I'll either go to a spring to fall packaging of the bulk of people's wish lists, adding a few more varieties just before shipping packages out. Or, I'll have to do a cut-off to the number of participants. This year, I'm just committed to those who've already joined.
As a first year participant I might don’t have the “right to say anything”
But it sounds like a good idea to have either a maximum amount of people entering, or/and spring/fall sending out. And definitely be stern with the dates- everything coming in after your set date is automatically a fall participant?
And also maybe have on the Wishlist if one would like to take part in fall or spring?
But hey Im Scandinavian we love rules and strict system we can follow so I might be coloured by that


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Input is always welcome, as I don't have all of the answers.KinaTo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:21 pmTormato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:47 pmAsk MissS, as her packages just arrived a couple of days ago.Or, look at posts in this thread, dated past November 20th, as that is the unofficial cut-off date. Every year, packages arrive later and later. and there ain't no stopping it.
Doing three swaps, and initially not recording participants who joined more than one, has been the hard part to handle. The smoothest part has been the EBTKS swap (except for finding all mailing addresses), as I have to inventory everything to know what I have and how much I have. While inventorying, selected varieties are put in the large box, killing two Birdie Rouges with one stone.
While I don't like sending packages out very late, participants should realize that if things melt down, here, their back-up plans should be to consider that these swap seeds (indoor starts) may have to be for the 2026 garden. There are a few participants' that specifically plan for 2026, with the bonus that they might be able to sow some seeds, especially the ones that are not started indoors, in 2025.
This year's swap has brought in many people from Tomato Lovers Collective & Swap, hopefully no more than I can handle. But, a few of those participants have pointed out, to me, that they come from TLC and other groups, too. If the word spreads to the other groups, I'll either go to a spring to fall packaging of the bulk of people's wish lists, adding a few more varieties just before shipping packages out. Or, I'll have to do a cut-off to the number of participants. This year, I'm just committed to those who've already joined.
As a first year participant I might don’t have the “right to say anything”
But it sounds like a good idea to have either a maximum amount of people entering, or/and spring/fall sending out. And definitely be stern with the dates- everything coming in after your set date is automatically a fall participant?
And also maybe have on the Wishlist if one would like to take part in fall or spring?
But hey Im Scandinavian we love rules and strict system we can follow so I might be coloured by that![]()
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Late incoming packages, inventorying those seeds, and making up packages is what takes time. Mailing them out, after packaging, is easy, and can be done in a short time period, as long as the waiting people in line behind me at the post office don't get violent.
And, I'm not much for rules, let alone non-flexible strict ones.
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I’m in the minimal rules camp if there are any camps. I had fun with the growing, the harvesting, the packaging and the shipping of seeds for the swap. That whole process had its own rewards without any expectation of an additional return. It’ll be even more fun getting a package of seeds in the mail whenever that happens to be.
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I just have to get you to try Seek-No-Further Love Apple. Your comments on tomato texture confuse me. I understand the hard/crunchy aversion. You also don't like very soft texture, but you like Prudens Purple. In my garden, Prudens Purple is one of the softest "meaty" tomatoes I've ever tried. (I disregard the softness of tomatoes that are mostly gel) But, since its flavor is over the top, I overlook that softness.karstopography wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:54 pm I’m in the minimal rules camp if there are any camps. I had fun with the growing, the harvesting, the packaging and the shipping of seeds for the swap. That whole process had its own rewards without any expectation of an additional return. It’ll be even more fun getting a package of seeds in the mail whenever that happens to be.
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Pruden’s Purple is “soft”, is that the right word? Pruden’s purple definitely isn’t mushy. Maybe it’s about all the gel, too much gel, very, very bad.Tormato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:20 pmI just have to get you to try Seek-No-Further Love Apple. Your comments on tomato texture confuse me. I understand the hard/crunchy aversion. You also don't like very soft texture, but you like Prudens Purple. In my garden, Prudens Purple is one of the softest "meaty" tomatoes I've ever tried. (I disregard the softness of tomatoes that are mostly gel) But, since its flavor is over the top, I overlook that softness.karstopography wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:54 pm I’m in the minimal rules camp if there are any camps. I had fun with the growing, the harvesting, the packaging and the shipping of seeds for the swap. That whole process had its own rewards without any expectation of an additional return. It’ll be even more fun getting a package of seeds in the mail whenever that happens to be.
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Other than cherries and saladettes, most of what I grow are varieties that have little gel, mostly solid beefsteaks and hearts.karstopography wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:30 pmPruden’s Purple is “soft”, is that the right word? Pruden’s purple definitely isn’t mushy. Maybe it’s about all the gel, too much gel, very, very bad.Tormato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:20 pmI just have to get you to try Seek-No-Further Love Apple. Your comments on tomato texture confuse me. I understand the hard/crunchy aversion. You also don't like very soft texture, but you like Prudens Purple. In my garden, Prudens Purple is one of the softest "meaty" tomatoes I've ever tried. (I disregard the softness of tomatoes that are mostly gel) But, since its flavor is over the top, I overlook that softness.karstopography wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:54 pm I’m in the minimal rules camp if there are any camps. I had fun with the growing, the harvesting, the packaging and the shipping of seeds for the swap. That whole process had its own rewards without any expectation of an additional return. It’ll be even more fun getting a package of seeds in the mail whenever that happens to be.
Mushy to me, is a tomato that has grown in lousy weather conditions, too hot and too much rain, a near total lack of flavor usually goes with the mushiness. In good weather, these varieties have normal texture. Very large bi-colors seem to get the mushiest, so I'll only trial a few of them a year.