2022/2023 variety questions and maybe answers

[HL2601]

1FD36F61-28B1-425C-B4B7-4A8ED6DC42D9.jpeg

Here are mine from last year...loved this tomato and it was my earliest heart. In my experience it started out very pale yellow then continued to this nice orange. My seeds were from MMMM last year.

[Tormahto]

1FD36F61-28B1-425C-B4B7-4A8ED6DC42D9.jpegHere are mine from last year...loved this tomato and it was my earliest heart. In my experience it started out very pale yellow then continued to this nice orange. My seeds were from MMMM last year.

That's what I would call yellowish orange. Not yellow, not orange, but in-between "gold".

All seeds in the previous MMMM swap originated with Debbie.

[Nan6b]

Mine were more of the color of hl2601's than Ohiogardener's.

I was away from my garden for several months due to a knee replacement this year. I only got in on the tail end of the harvest. There were 2 fruits total of Amish Yellowish. The plant was going down from disease, so maybe my atypical fruits were caused by that neglect & disease.

[HL2601]

Aww Nan- hope the replacement knee has worked well for you and that this season's garden will bring you lots of joy!

[Tormahto]

Elbonian Mudslinger.

I believe this is a chance cross of Elgin Pink and something else. It is a Tormato discovery/creation that I think is F3 or F4 at this point - @Tormato please correct whatever I have wrong.

I grew it last year and was really happy with it. I put posted pics, etc. in the Winners and Losers thread from last year:
2021-winners-losers-t2743.html

If I have the generation correct then it may not be completely stable so it will be interesting if a bunch of us grow it and share and compare results.

Elbonian Mudslinger (ind, PL, black, beefsteak, belly button blossom end (an "innie" if someone wants the anal retentive description ) came from my saved seed of a growout of Elgin Pink (2014 seed ). It took me years to find out that my Elgin Pink likely was a variant of the real one. The EP that I grew was by far the sweetest pink beefsteak I've ever trialed. It tasted like a typical bicolor. Most descriptions that I've read say sweet to balanced, which means it has some "zing". Mine had none. Bunny Hop has some background info on the Elgins starting with Wild Thyme.

Zendog received the saved seeds of my first generation of Elbonian Mudslinger. He grew the second generation. The swap has the third generation. Consider it far from stable.

If I had the room in my garden, I would be hunting down anyone that may still have seeds from 2013 or earlier, that grew out of the original Wild Thyme. There are some extraordinary varieties that came from that line. My garden gets filled with growouts from seed that I hunted down, a PL version of Granny's Heart. Like Wild Thyme, it's a line that is producing some extraordinary varieties (to me, at least).

[lee53011]

Zupska Rana Pepper. Can't seem to find much on it like Scoville or used for what type of Paprika etc.

[Toomanymatoes]

Zupska Rana Pepper. Can't seem to find much on it like Scoville or used for what type of Paprika etc.

I would assume it was on the sweeter side since it is a C.annuum. Could not find the specific SHU information though.

image.png

All the articles were in Russian. So, I could not get additional info.

https://institut-palanka.rs/en

[Labradors]

Zupska Rana pepper.

This is a sweet pepper which is prolific. It's supposed to be early, but I cannot really comment because I was late to get them going last year. They grew well for me, and were fully ripe when orangey red.

Linda

[GoDawgs]

Good idea.

OK, I have several MMMM varieties that I've searched for and can't find except what info, if any, came with the seeds. Need to fill in some blanks on my spreadsheet.

Flor de Artana - need DTM, leaf type, shape, tomato type,
Ramallet des Figueral - need DTM, leaf type, shape, tomato type, det or indet.
Shokoladnaya Sosulka - need DTM, leaf type, det or indet, fruit size
Swoon - how big does this one get and how big are the fruits?
Aunt Eula's Rockhouse Pink - Found AE Rockhouse Red... does the pink version have the same characteristics?
Timpurii - I think it's a heart from Romania but that's all I could find and that might not be right. Had to use the Microsoft translator to read a Romanian paragraph.

@Tormato , thanks for the info on the Elbonian.

Bumping this up to the top after removing some names.

[MissS]

@GoDawgs I am wondering if your Pink Heart could be Pink Oxheart. Perhaps somebody shortened the name.

[GoDawgs]

@GoDawgs I am wondering if your Pink Heart could be Pink Oxheart. Perhaps somebody shortened the name.

It could be but there's no way for me to know. The piece of paper inside the envelope says "Pink (indet. heart from Lindalana, brought it back from Russia), 2020, Unbagged, scooty."

Yeaux, @Scooty ! Can you help out with this?

[Tormahto]

1FD36F61-28B1-425C-B4B7-4A8ED6DC42D9.jpegHere are mine from last year...loved this tomato and it was my earliest heart. In my experience it started out very pale yellow then continued to this nice orange. My seeds were from MMMM last year.

I'm on a different monitor today, and the colors are different than on the other monitor.

[Seven Bends]

@GoDawgs see this thread at Tville for "Pink" information: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.p ... pink+heart
Post #1 from Lindalana has text about it near the top, and a picture at the bottom. Post 8 in the thread has a little more text and another picture from Lindalana.

In this thread, post 272, Lindalana refers to it as "Pink, mine." http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.p ... post544939 Then I don't see her saying anything about it under that label after 2016, so maybe she stopped growing it, or maybe she found out the real name and started calling it that?

I see there's a poster here named Lindalana who posted only once, in 2020. Might need to head over to Tville to track down more info.

[GoDawgs]

@Seven Bends , thanks for that information. So what I gather is that Pink is an early tomato, rather oblate in shape in the photos.

[Acer Rubrum]

I have a few questions about Tauriel's Strawberry F3. I requested it because the name is cool (though, yes, I know Tauriel isn't one of Tolkien's original characters) and I figured it would be a heart based on the strawberry portion of the name. So I'm curious what varieties it descends from and how the F3 fruit presented. And how tall the plant is.

[Happygardener23]

@GoDawgs see this thread at Tville for "Pink" information: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.p ... pink+heart
Post #1 from Lindalana has text about it near the top, and a picture at the bottom. Post 8 in the thread has a little more text and another picture from Lindalana.

In this thread, post 272, Lindalana refers to it as "Pink, mine." http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.p ... post544939 Then I don't see her saying anything about it under that label after 2016, so maybe she stopped growing it, or maybe she found out the real name and started calling it that?

I see there's a poster here named Lindalana who posted only once, in 2020. Might need to head over to Tville to track down more info.

I know Lindalana. She is local to me and hosts a plant swap every year where she kindly shares many of her tomato seedlings and other lovely plants and seedlings. I've attended the swap for the past 10+ years. I know that I have gotten a "Pink" tomato plant from her at the swap either this past season or the year prior (although unfortunately, the plant succumbed to something prior to fruiting) so I can confirm that she is still growing the seed under the name "pink." I will reach out to her through the site where we connect about the local swap and see if she has any info. If I don't hear back I will ask her when I see her at the swap in May.

[HL2601]

@Scooty, @Happygardener23 knows..I am a big lover of varieties Lindalana grows. Her outer Chicago climate can be harsh and many she has grown do well for me as well. Anything that does well for her-well I am game. just saying...
I wish she was still posting!
Thanks @Happygardener23 for canvasing her sale and saving seeds from your plants to pass along. Love them!
Heide

[lindalana]

Aww, I have been nuts with selling house and moving my gardens last year. Got really lucky to have great friends who moved/planted my garden and tomatoes for me last year.
To those who might have received tomatoes Pink from me .
I know , very unoriginal, but that how I got them.
Those tomatoes were from Ukraine, where I got it about 2012? from long term grower who just provided basic names as in description. Area now destroyed by war so am unable to even give my gratitude to that woman. She grew it for long time but did not care about names and such.
I still have few original seeds left and have what I have grown over the years collected.
It has been reliable performer on early side of pink heart ish medium to mostly large tomatoes, fairly compact ish.

[Tormahto]

I have a few questions about Tauriel's Strawberry F3. I requested it because the name is cool (though, yes, I know Tauriel isn't one of Tolkien's original characters) and I figured it would be a heart based on the strawberry portion of the name. So I'm curious what varieties it descends from and how the F3 fruit presented. And how tall the plant is.

It was a natural cross of P20 with Brandywine Sudduth, in my garden, showing up in saved seed of BS the next year. I sent seeds out as "Piece of Crop" , and Tauriel's came back. "Blue Suede-uth Shoes" is from the same line.

[GoDawgs]

@lindalana and @Happygardener23, thanks so much for the info on 'Pink'! It's been deleted from the "unknowns" list.