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Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142582Unread post Barmaley
Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:57 pm

Is it still true that SunGold is the best cherry tomato? I tried many other cherries and still can not find the same complex and full flavor of SunGold in any other tomato.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142586Unread post Tormato
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:30 pm

Yes

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142587Unread post tyrupp
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:36 pm

tormato could you please enlighten us with what that would be in a cherry tomato ?

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Post: # 142588Unread post MissS
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:33 pm

I concur with Tomato.
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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142589Unread post worth1
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:38 pm

Me too.
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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142593Unread post Tormato
Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:36 pm

tyrupp wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:36 pm tormato could you please enlighten us with what that would be in a cherry tomato ?
Enlightenment is in post #1.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142594Unread post KaguyaCloud
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:25 pm

Basically Tormato is answering “Yes” to the first question, that Sungold is the best tasting cherry tomato.

I remember MissTee giving quite a list ranking cherry tomatoes here:
viewtopic.php?t=4581#p100601
Excellent, will grow again:
Ambrosia Gold
Amy’s Apricot
Candy Sweet Icicle
Chocolate Pear
Iva’s Red Berry
Rosella
Tel Aviv Train
Sunshine Yellow
Sweet Aperitif

Good - May grow again if I run out of new options:
Brad’s Atomic Grape
Ditmarsher
Green Doctors
Medovaya Kaplya
Rebel Alliance
Snow White
Santium Sunrise
Sun Gold
Sunrise Bumblebee

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:07 am

Barmaley wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:57 pm Is it still true that SunGold is the best cherry tomato? I tried many other cherries and still can not find the same complex and full flavor of SunGold in any other tomato.
To me cherry is more about concentration. Complexity is another matter, with involves more subtle flavor other than sweetness, as well as interplay of textures and juices. This is why I grow beefsteaks.

Sungold is good because it is produces very consistent sweet fruits. There are a few variety that are claimed sweeter than Sungold, but Sungold tend to be more reliable and productive.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:35 am

Sungold F1 has a unique unusual sweet citrus note that no other cherry has. People may rave that SunSugar F1 is sweeter, but to me simple sweetness is boring unless has some kind of flavor kick to distinguish it. You can't mistake a Sungold for any other cherry. Sungold stands alone!

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142625Unread post Tormato
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:26 pm

ddsack wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:35 am Sungold F1 has a unique unusual sweet citrus note that no other cherry has. People may rave that SunSugar F1 is sweeter, but to me simple sweetness is boring unless has some kind of flavor kick to distinguish it. You can't mistake a Sungold for any other cherry. Sungold stands alone!
Agreed, SunGold stands alone.

In my garden, SunSugar can be sweeter, and most of the time it is. Far less consistent in flavor, it sometimes is less sweet. But, SunSugar is always weaker in flavor. I've trialed perhaps all of the "SunGold OP" types in the past 20 years. Almost all were fairly lousy, as they didn't taste anything like SunGold.

The only two that stood out were...

Ambrosia Gold - close to the sweetness of SunGold, but lacking in the strength of flavor,

and

California Sungold - close to the strength of flavor of SunGold, but lacking in sweetness.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:48 pm

Anyone tried Sun Orange ???
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Post: # 142629Unread post Doffer
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:03 pm

Nebula F2 cherry with brix 15 will beat Sungold.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142630Unread post Tormato
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:04 pm

Yak54 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:48 pm Anyone tried Sun Orange ???
Hmm. I forgot about that one.

I see that I now have exactly one pack in the MMMM inventory. In the future counting the number of seeds in the pack, I may abscond with one seed that accidentally falls out of that pack. But first, I must check to see if any participants add it to their wish lists.

Like all things non-SunGold, I do not go in expecting anything more than disappointment. :(

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142635Unread post tyrupp
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:28 pm

Tormato wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:36 pm
tyrupp wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:36 pm tormato could you please enlighten us with what that would be in a cherry tomato ?
Enlightenment is in post #1.
Thanks torm ,I need a new pair of glasses or reading comprehension classes

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142636Unread post Yak54
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:43 pm

Tormato wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:04 pm
Yak54 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:48 pm Anyone tried Sun Orange ???
Hmm. I forgot about that one.

I see that I now have exactly one pack in the MMMM inventory. In the future counting the number of seeds in the pack, I may abscond with one seed that accidentally falls out of that pack. But first, I must check to see if any participants add it to their wish lists.

Like all things non-SunGold, I do not go in expecting anything more than disappointment. :(
I’ve tried it and I was not disappointed :) ;)
Dan

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142698Unread post Mike G
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:03 am

How about Green Doctors? I’ve never tried them but have read many reviews, some claiming it is better than sungold.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142711Unread post ddsack
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:17 pm

Competely different flavor profile, than SunGold F1. I've only grown Green Doctors Frosted a couple of times. It was very good for a green cherry, nice taste, maybe somewhat reminiscent of a mild honeydew melon as opposed to the citrus tang of SunGold. I would grow it again to use in a mix of cherry colors. If I had to pick only one, I would still stick with SunGold.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142715Unread post Barmaley
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:58 pm

Since SunGold is so good, what are the reason you grow other cherries?

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142721Unread post Tormato
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:30 pm

Barmaley wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:58 pm Since SunGold is so good, what are the reason you grow other cherries?
Can't save seeds with SunGold. One year, many years ago, there was a problem with SunGold, where they were not the correct seeds.

:roll: Growing other cherries is my futile replacement back-up plan, in case I run out of true SunGold seeds, and the wrong seed happens again.

I think that if I pop one Ambrosia Gold and one California Sungold in my mouth at the same time, I might come closest to the SunGold taste.

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Re: Better than SunGold

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Post: # 142722Unread post Mark_Thompson
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:18 pm

Mike G wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:03 am How about Green Doctors? I’ve never tried them but have read many reviews, some claiming it is better than sungold.
It’s not even close.
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