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Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:18 am
by Cornelius_Gotchberg
Anyone have any experience with any of these, good, bad, and/or ugly? https://www.google.com/search?q=soil+te ... nt=gws-wiz

The Gotch

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:50 pm
by AZGardener
I've used this one:
https://www.mysoiltesting.com/collectio ... KuEALw_wcB

I thought it was pretty accurate.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:35 am
by JayneR13
I use the RapiTests when I just need to get into the ballpark between lab testing, which usually doesn't need to be done every year. Those are generally held to be not very accurate, though I trust color changes over some choices like multiprobes. My favorite is the Soil Savvy test, which tests for several nutrients. This includes majors, secondaries, micros, and of course pH. They're similar in price to my local Extension office and very easy to use. Here's an example of the readout:
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They're available for direct purchase here: https://www.mysoilsavvy.com/

Good luck!

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:35 pm
by Cranraspberry
I recently found out that Penn State does basic soil tests for just $10, $15 if you want to include organic matter. For that price I have some samples drying now and plan to send them in this week. https://agsci.psu.edu/aasl/soil-testing ... sion-forms

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:34 am
by FatBeeFarm
Cranraspberry wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:35 pm I recently found out that Penn State does basic soil tests for just $10, $15 if you want to include organic matter. For that price I have some samples drying now and plan to send them in this week. https://agsci.psu.edu/aasl/soil-testing ... sion-forms
Do you know if you have to be a Pennsylvania resident? NH is $22, which really isn't all that bad either.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:21 am
by Cranraspberry
@FatBeeFarm no, you don’t! I actually found their contact on the University of Maryland page - UMD no longer offers soil testing and they provided a list of labs that could be used instead. Most are upwards of $20, U of Delaware is $17 I think, but Penn State was the cheapest I’ve seen to date. We have multiple raised beds that were filled slightly differently, so we’d need at least 3 tests, and at $25/each that adds up which is why I haven’t done it yet. $30 for all three seems extremely reasonable. Plus they only require a cup of dried out soil (one lab wanted a pound per sample!), so shipping should be very inexpensive.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:47 am
by pepperhead212
Every few years I do a couple of soil tests through U of Connecticut, which has always seemed to have the biggest selection, and best prices for tests. They have a standard test, which has many tests included, and they offer the tests for many types of plants, depending on what you are growing; though I never got testing for corn, potatoes, or any of the fruit tests they offer, some of you might need it. They also offer many other tests, as you can see.
https://soiltesting.cahnr.uconn.edu/sampling/

As for out of state tests, you may be in a "quarantined area", which may affect you in other states, too. Down south, and out west there can be problem pests, as any of you know. Here's the link to the soil tests, and at the bottom of the page, it tells you about this, and a pdf showing a map, and if you are in one of those areas. And the first pdf right under "STANDARD NUTRIENT ANALYSIS" is probably what you will want, unless you are a commercial grower.
https://soiltesting.cahnr.uconn.edu/sampling/

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:06 am
by Cranraspberry
@pepperhead212 that’s very interesting - I visited 5 or 6 different soil testing sites yesterday (some affiliated with universities and some commercial) and none of them had such restrictions. I wonder if it’s a CT-specific legislation perhaps? Or maybe my sample size wasn’t large enough.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:58 pm
by JayneR13
Cranraspberry wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:35 pm I recently found out that Penn State does basic soil tests for just $10, $15 if you want to include organic matter. For that price I have some samples drying now and plan to send them in this week. https://agsci.psu.edu/aasl/soil-testing ... sion-forms
What do they test? Is it just NPK and pH, or do they include other stuff? UW Extension includes only NPK and pH, though they'll do Ca and S for an added fee. That's something to consider for the money.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:29 pm
by Cranraspberry
@JayneR13 I don’t believe any of the labs I checked out test for N, but it seems pretty standard, maybe a little on the bare bones side which isn’t necessarily a bad thing:
Each sample is analyzed for water pH, Mehlich buffer lime requirement, and for phosphorus, potassium, magnesium, and calcium by the Mehlich 3 (ICP) test. The final report includes the chemical analysis of the soil along with lime and fertilizer recommendations for the crop specified. For agronomic crops, Mehlich 3 zinc, copper and sulfur are also reported.
You can add organic matter for an extra $5, which is still the cheapest I’ve encountered.

I found them via this link and the table at the bottom of the page shows a comparison of several labs and what they test for: https://extension.umd.edu/resource/soil ... sting-labs

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:59 am
by JayneR13
That's surprising, since N is one of the three majors and they're testing for the other two. Cheap isn't always best in my experience however. I stand by my preference for the Soil Savvy tests.

ETA: I've looked at the tests offered by my local Extension and you're right! They're not testing for N. If memory serves they used to, but evidently not anymore. Strange but true! Wow!

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:00 pm
by Cranraspberry
@JayneR13 This is the explanation UMD gives, I was surprised as well:
Nitrogen is needed in relatively large quantities but it is not measured because it continuously moves between organic forms (not available for plant uptake) and inorganic forms (available for plant uptake). This is affected by temperature, rainfall, soil texture and structure, biological activity, and many other factors. Nitrogen recommendations are provided, but they are based on the need of the particular plant you are growing for the upcoming season, not the amount in your soil.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:20 am
by JayneR13
Cranraspberry wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:00 pm @JayneR13 This is the explanation UMD gives, I was surprised as well:
Nitrogen is needed in relatively large quantities but it is not measured because it continuously moves between organic forms (not available for plant uptake) and inorganic forms (available for plant uptake). This is affected by temperature, rainfall, soil texture and structure, biological activity, and many other factors. Nitrogen recommendations are provided, but they are based on the need of the particular plant you are growing for the upcoming season, not the amount in your soil.
Interesting. N is needed in fairly large quantity and it does get used up quickly. However, too much N will result in lovely plants that don't set fruit. I learned this the hard way growing potatoes. I had the most lovely plants but not one tuber from a 4'x4' bed. I dug for my treasures and came up empty!

Well, it's good to know what a given lab is testing for the money. I'll take the comprehensive soil testing panel for $30, Alex.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:02 pm
by SpringtimeInTheBag
JayneR13 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:20 am Interesting. N is needed in fairly large quantity and it does get used up quickly.
It also varies significantly from week to week based on weather, conditions for soil microbes, etc. Knowing what the reading was several weeks ago doesn't really help make good decisions about what to do today when it comes to nitrogen. By the time you receive the report it's already out of date. That's why many extension offices that provide testing services omit it.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:39 am
by Cranraspberry
Just wanted to update that I got my Penn State test results back. It was very quick - sample was delivered on Friday 12/1 and I had the results in my inbox on Wednesday 12/6.
Biggest surprise was that my three beds weren’t as different as I expected (two were filled with all new bagged products and the third used a lot of my existing, clay-based soil), and that my calcium and magnesium were very high (makes sense since I added quite a but of garden lime to balance out the acidity of peat moss). Of course I had just bought a bunch of Neptune’s Harvest crab shell meal on sale. 😂
I also added OM because I was curious, but because of the high percentage of peat/bagged “soil” it’s very high and not particularly helpful, should’ve saved the extra $15/3 tests.

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Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:53 am
by JRinPA
Cranraspberry wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:39 am Just wanted to update that I got my Penn State test results back. It was very quick - sample was delivered on Friday 12/1 and I had the results in my inbox on Wednesday 12/6.
Biggest surprise was that my three beds weren’t as different as I expected...
I have yet to do any soil test. On that PSU test...what you posted, is that all the results from a single bed?

If so, did you post the other two results?

What is the OM part of the test results? Just the 36.8%?

I'm not understanding why the soil PH does not have a number, just the bar graph. Or whether 36% organic is good or bad or indifferent.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:29 pm
by CrazyAboutOrchids
I test my garden soil every year and my lawn every few. UConn soil testing lab does a great job. I try to jump on it early every year because they do tend to get backed up once people start thinking about planting. I think they are very reasonable. I do their standard analysis and organic matter - it's $22.00. They give a recommendation based on whatever crop as well. I look at it like cooking - you have to have all the right ingredients to end up with the dish you expect. A soil test allows me insight on things I cannot see so I can properly feed the stuff I grow.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:51 pm
by Paulf
U of Nebraska stopped doing soil tests about ten years ago and recommended several labs. The lab I have used does a basic test for $10, organic for another five and a complete profile for $35. I do the basic yearly and the organic every three. This year I went all out for the first time in the twenty years we have lived here.

My reasoning for using a professional lab is: who do I trust, me with a do it myself kit or a full time technician using professional equipment costing thousands of dollars doing a job they do evert day? So far they have not been wrong and have given me the best results
I could hope for. A few years back a friend gifted me a kit; I followed instructions and compared to the pro lab. My results differed by a whole bunch, especially the pH. The suggestion was to add lime and lots of N. This to soil the lab said was a pH of 8.4 which I knew to be true. The kit indicated 6.9. It may have been me or the brand testing kit, but my collected samples never have been a problem before or since.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:27 pm
by Yak54
Cranraspberry wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:35 pm I recently found out that Penn State does basic soil tests for just $10, $15 if you want to include organic matter. For that price I have some samples drying now and plan to send them in this week. https://agsci.psu.edu/aasl/soil-testing ... sion-forms
I've used the Penn State test for many years. Used to cost $9.00. Money well spent.

Re: Soil Testing Kits

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:52 pm
by JRinPA
Plus shipping in, right?