Have noticed that there are various varieties from @Tormato which he has named after the Dilbert cartoon characters from Elbonia.
I know that there are
Elbonian Mudball, which produced a couple of different versions for me last year, now with added tags of North and South (one pink, one dark)
Elbonian Mudslinger , which did nothing for me last season but I have two plants for this year, and
Elbonian Hipdeep, of which I have one growing for this season as a new to me. Plant so far is showing as potato leaf, is this what you expect Tomato?
Are there any others selections bearing the Elbonian tag and could you please provide details here?
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:38 am
by Tormahto
I think my brain has entered the Elbonian dry season (the time between gardening and the swap), and is currently caked up.
Elbonian Puddle Duck (Miss S's, F3?), and (your discovery, F3?) North Elbonian Pinko are two in the works. I think that I have at least one more, but I'm not sure. After my tomato inventory, sometime soon, I'll know more.
Elbonian Hip Deep should be PL, has always grown very short, here (to about 3 feet), so it may be a determinate. It's always been in a poor location in my garden. Because of that, it might be fairly late, it might not have high production. It often produces boat-shaped beefsteaks, about 14 ounces was my largest. To me, it's one of the few "clean ", not dirty, tasting darks. Therefore, one of the few darks that I like.
Other than the best black tomato that I've ever tried, I'll have to find my notes on Elbonian Mudslinger.
The dark version of Elbonian Mudball that you have is likely what I grew and named, Not being stable though, things could change.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:48 am
by Whwoz
In this wet season Elbonian Knee Deep is doing very well, pushing 400mm/16 inches high, making it probably the tallest of my plants so far. The cage it was planted in may need some supplementary stakes later in the season, time will tell.
Elbonian Knee Deep.jpg
Elbonian Knee Deep top.jpg
There are two flower clusters below the one pictured with open flowers but too early to tell if fruit have set yet.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:22 am
by Tormahto
Knee, or Hip, Deep?
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:09 am
by Whwoz
Might yet wind up Hip, time will tell.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:33 am
by Whwoz
Elbonian Knee Deep, grown in cage, would be pushing 1 m/ 3foot 4in tall or maybe a bit more, have not taken tape measure out to see. Fruit are large, dark ribbed and delicious. One pictured around 390g/13.75 oz is typical, but not largest, which unfortunately was grub eaten. Seems to be a bad year for grubs in the district.
Elbonian Knee Deep fruit 2.jpg
Elbonian Knee Deep fruit.jpg
Photos taken several days apart
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:05 am
by Tormahto
Is that a variant of one of the Elbonians, that you're working on?
You have me c nfused as to whether it is Elbonian Hip Deep, or something new, of yours.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:08 am
by Whwoz
Sorry @Tormato, It is Elbonian Hip deep, don't know why I keep thinking of as knee deep. Definately one of yours, first year growing it. My bad and apologies
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:44 am
by Tormahto
Whwoz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:08 am
Sorry @Tormato, It is Elbonian Hip deep, don't know why I keep thinking of as knee deep. Definately one of yours, first year growing it. My bad and apologies
Whwoz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:08 am
Sorry @Tormato, It is Elbonian Hip deep, don't know why I keep thinking of as knee deep. Definately one of yours, first year growing it. My bad and apologies
Whwoz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:08 am
Sorry @Tormato, It is Elbonian Hip deep, don't know why I keep thinking of as knee deep. Definately one of yours, first year growing it. My bad and apologies
Ill have to dock your pay.
Ouch!
Nah, pain free.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 am
by Whwoz
Elbonian Hip deep and Elbonian Mudslinger tasted today and rated well by all. Definitely will be growing again
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:49 am
by Tormahto
Whwoz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 am
Elbonian Hip deep and Elbonian Mudslinger tasted today and rated well by all. Definitely will be growing again
Hip Deep should be mostly stable.
Mudslinger is still nowhere near there. So, I recommend several seedlings to get the correct leaf type, and growing out at least two plants.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:08 am
by Danny
Tormato, what can you tell me about Elbonian Mudball variety, please ?
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:16 am
by Tormahto
Danny wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:08 am
Tormato, what can you tell me about Elbonian Mudball variety, please ?
14 years later, it's at about an F5, thanks to Whwoz.
@Danny What I grew last year as Elbonian Mudball was two plants, one dark, one pink, both delicious. At this stage one is tagged North, the other south simply because my garden beds run north south and plants were side by side. More information can be found in the Garden of Woz glog. Have grown them again this year but with our crazy weather and 3 weeks of migraine headaches and who knows how much other fruit to preserve, the tomatoes have taken a bit of a back seat this season. More F5 seed will be shortly sent to Tormato of both of last years clones and as I continue the cleanup of this year's plants, I will be looking for them to taste a save seeds again. The Four clones I have grown from the Elbonian cross (2 X Mudball, Mudslinger and Hip Deep) have all been very good tomatoes.
Need to try a puddle duck sometime.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:23 am
by Tormahto
We're calling one "North Elbonian Pinko", right?
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.
Re: Elbonian varieties
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:14 am
by Whwoz
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:23 am
We're calling one "North Elbonian Pinko", right?
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.
North Elbonian Pinko sounds good to me @Tormato, and no rush to get those Puddle Duck seeds down under, late August/early September is when I will be sowing tomatoes next
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:23 am
We're calling one "North Elbonian Pinko", right?
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.
North Elbonian Pinko sounds good to me @Tormato, and no rush to get those Puddle Duck seeds down under, late August/early September is when I will be sowing tomatoes next
While I can send Puddle Duck F3, I'm unsure at this point what varieties I'll be planting this year. Perhaps you should put in a general request for F4 seed in late July/early August?
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:23 am
We're calling one "North Elbonian Pinko", right?
And, I have Puddle Duck F3 seeds.
North Elbonian Pinko sounds good to me @Tormato, and no rush to get those Puddle Duck seeds down under, late August/early September is when I will be sowing tomatoes next
While I can send Puddle Duck F3, I'm unsure at this point what varieties I'll be planting this year. Perhaps you should put in a general request for F4 seed in late July/early August?
I sow my seed around the end of July and start of August @Tormato