Shule's 2021 garden grow log
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They had a perfumy apple-type taste, kind of like roses smell mixed with apples and rose hips, but it's hard to describe. I don't think I've ever had another green quite like it. The taste is similar to the taste of the flowers, but not quite the same.Julianna wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 amWhat did they taste like?Shule wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:21 am
I recently found out that rose leaves are edible (as long as the plant isn't given anything harmful to humans). I ate some a few weeks ago, and they were delicious. I like to experiment and try new things. So, I may experiment in order to find out what I like the powder in.
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Interesting! I am wondering if they could make a good aromatic in a salad or added with something like a rice dish that contains sweet additions like raisins.
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@Juli Ann
Okay, my first impression was this:
It might be a good aromatic in a salad. The leaves are firmer than your typical salad green, though; so, you might want to pair them with something thicker like kale or cabbage instead of lettuce.
I thought they'd be good with rice, but I wasn't sure about raisins.
So, then I got some raisins and picked some rose leaves, and I tried them together. Here's my analysis:
While the combination is not unpleasant, the raisins overpower the flavor/scent of the rose leaves. The aftertaste is good, though, and I can taste the rose leaves in it. I do think the rose leaf flavor could go nicely with the flavor of rice, but I haven't tried it, yet.
Okay, my first impression was this:
It might be a good aromatic in a salad. The leaves are firmer than your typical salad green, though; so, you might want to pair them with something thicker like kale or cabbage instead of lettuce.
I thought they'd be good with rice, but I wasn't sure about raisins.
So, then I got some raisins and picked some rose leaves, and I tried them together. Here's my analysis:
While the combination is not unpleasant, the raisins overpower the flavor/scent of the rose leaves. The aftertaste is good, though, and I can taste the rose leaves in it. I do think the rose leaf flavor could go nicely with the flavor of rice, but I haven't tried it, yet.
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@Shule I think that would be a good use! Also maybe boiled you could extract some.rose water and do sweet things, but that defeats the purpose of eating the greens.
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So, I guess my tomato season isn't done, yet!
We still have tomatoes that haven't died from the frost (even though we've had lots of frosts). Mostly, they're Napoli tomatoes, and Morsel_A F1 (the mother of Morsel_A is Napoli; not sure about the father).
We're getting plenty of storage tomatoes ripening.
I'm in the process of saving seeds from Aunt Ginny's Purple, Orange Jazz, and . . . Stick! Yes, I found a Stick tomato plant that wasn't dead (all the others were long dead from being squashed by other tomatoes; apparently, it doesn't survive being squashed like most tomatoes do). Stick had about 8 to 10 fruits; the only reason it wasn't squashed was because I had it in its own tomato cage.
I need to save seeds from Napoli and some of the others out there.
A volunteer that I didn't list on my garden map due to not being in any of the spots I personally garden in has finally ripened. I found two slugs on it (and it had slug bites). So, it appears to have the following traits:
* Maybe 6 or 7oz
* Yellow fruit (not orange)
* Fluted, like Cotoluto Genovese
* I think it's indeterminate
* It kind of reminds me a bit of Galapagos Island (the way the plant looks).
So, this plant is somewhat of a mystery, because it's yellow and much larger than the yellow tomatoes I had last year, and not much smaller than my Purple Calabash cross tomatoes. When the slugs vacate (I don't want to interrupt their meal), I plan to save seeds.
Anyway, the yellow color would seem to imply that the parent was already a cross with a yellow father line--or else that it's a rare dominant yellow gene. The yellow doesn't look as pure yellow as Snacker_, but more like the yellow of Mexican Yellow (which borders on gold).
We still have tomatoes that haven't died from the frost (even though we've had lots of frosts). Mostly, they're Napoli tomatoes, and Morsel_A F1 (the mother of Morsel_A is Napoli; not sure about the father).
We're getting plenty of storage tomatoes ripening.
I'm in the process of saving seeds from Aunt Ginny's Purple, Orange Jazz, and . . . Stick! Yes, I found a Stick tomato plant that wasn't dead (all the others were long dead from being squashed by other tomatoes; apparently, it doesn't survive being squashed like most tomatoes do). Stick had about 8 to 10 fruits; the only reason it wasn't squashed was because I had it in its own tomato cage.
I need to save seeds from Napoli and some of the others out there.
A volunteer that I didn't list on my garden map due to not being in any of the spots I personally garden in has finally ripened. I found two slugs on it (and it had slug bites). So, it appears to have the following traits:
* Maybe 6 or 7oz
* Yellow fruit (not orange)
* Fluted, like Cotoluto Genovese
* I think it's indeterminate
* It kind of reminds me a bit of Galapagos Island (the way the plant looks).
So, this plant is somewhat of a mystery, because it's yellow and much larger than the yellow tomatoes I had last year, and not much smaller than my Purple Calabash cross tomatoes. When the slugs vacate (I don't want to interrupt their meal), I plan to save seeds.
Anyway, the yellow color would seem to imply that the parent was already a cross with a yellow father line--or else that it's a rare dominant yellow gene. The yellow doesn't look as pure yellow as Snacker_, but more like the yellow of Mexican Yellow (which borders on gold).
Location: SW Idaho, USA
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That yellow sounds awesome!
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I ate our last watermelons, from this year's harvest, today. They were getting soft.
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That's one long keeping melon! What variety was it, when did you harvest it and probably most importantly, where did you store it? Inquiring minds want to know. 

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There were two. One was part Carolina Cross #183, and I don't know what the other was. They might have been part winter watermelon. They were by our fireplace until it got cold; then we put them on the dining room table. Full-on winter watermelons can keep into December, though, if you don't eat them all (they keep for three to four months). Mine this year were all crosses, I believe, but most were part winter watermelon.
Here are some winter watermelon varieties to try:
* Navajo Winter (this one can keep for four months)
* King Winter (tastes like watermelon Jolly Ranchers)
* King and Queen Winter
* Winter Queen
* Navajo Red (excellent taste; strong diuretic; has red, medium-sized seeds)
* Black-seeded Ice Cream
* Santo Domingo Winter (great taste when refrigerated; few seeds)
* Santo Domingo Dark Green (large fruit and great taste; I don't think the seeds were particularly small)
* Santo Domingo Brown Seeded (large fruit, and great taste; bigger brown seeds)
* Wintermelon (excellent smell)
I've tried all of those, except for Black-seeded Ice Cream, and King and Queen Winter. The thing that's different about winter watermelons is that the skin (not the rind, but the very skin of the fruit) is a lot firmer. Most winter watermelons have small, black seeds.
You can find them at places like sandhillpreservation.com, nativeseeds.org, victoryseeds.com, and rareseeds.com.
The longest-keeping watermelon I've found is Red-seeded Citron, though. It can keep for over a year. However, it's not sweet, and the flesh is a whole lot firmer. You can use it in place of apples in desserts, with mock apple pie ingredients (e.g. citric acid, cinnamon, nutmeg, and brown sugar).
There were two. One was part Carolina Cross #183, and I don't know what the other was. They might have been part winter watermelon. They were by our fireplace until it got cold; then we put them on the dining room table. Full-on winter watermelons can keep into December, though, if you don't eat them all (they keep for three to four months). Mine this year were all crosses, I believe, but most were part winter watermelon.
Here are some winter watermelon varieties to try:
* Navajo Winter (this one can keep for four months)
* King Winter (tastes like watermelon Jolly Ranchers)
* King and Queen Winter
* Winter Queen
* Navajo Red (excellent taste; strong diuretic; has red, medium-sized seeds)
* Black-seeded Ice Cream
* Santo Domingo Winter (great taste when refrigerated; few seeds)
* Santo Domingo Dark Green (large fruit and great taste; I don't think the seeds were particularly small)
* Santo Domingo Brown Seeded (large fruit, and great taste; bigger brown seeds)
* Wintermelon (excellent smell)
I've tried all of those, except for Black-seeded Ice Cream, and King and Queen Winter. The thing that's different about winter watermelons is that the skin (not the rind, but the very skin of the fruit) is a lot firmer. Most winter watermelons have small, black seeds.
You can find them at places like sandhillpreservation.com, nativeseeds.org, victoryseeds.com, and rareseeds.com.
The longest-keeping watermelon I've found is Red-seeded Citron, though. It can keep for over a year. However, it's not sweet, and the flesh is a whole lot firmer. You can use it in place of apples in desserts, with mock apple pie ingredients (e.g. citric acid, cinnamon, nutmeg, and brown sugar).
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@Shule, I had no idea there were winter watermelons out there and will have to look into that.
Are they really viney, i.e. space hogs?
Are they really viney, i.e. space hogs?
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@GoDawgs
They're a pretty normal size, as far as I can tell. Red-seeded Citron is huge, though.
They're a pretty normal size, as far as I can tell. Red-seeded Citron is huge, though.
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Elevation: 2,260 feet