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Sat May 27, 2023 4:23 am

slugworth wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 1:19 am cloning is always good for disaster recovery.
I decapitated a plant last year in a weed wacker accident and was able to recover and the cutting had a green tomato at the time that got red full size no BER.
You can't say that tomato wasn't under a lot of stress.
So sorry about your tomato plant, but it gives me hope for my, "Justine's" full recovery. :)

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Sat May 27, 2023 6:11 am

o0sunsi0o wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:24 am
slugworth wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:54 am
o0sunsi0o wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:13 am In all seriousness, I bet it doesn't taste that bad please, keep us updated how it is. If I had the room I might try it myself. Just went and quickly looked up Heinz 1350 and seed companies have very good things to say about this tomato. One seed source said it's open-pollinated, that was a surprise. I think I will try it next year, making my own ketchup would be a great experience and share it around to friends. It's said to make a good canning tomato as well as for salads, what's not to like! :)
Some sites list it as semi-determinate,I will have to see if it produces a second batch.
For an extended season you can stagger the plantings or keep plucking all the blossoms on a few plants.
Or clone the suckers.
Silvery fir tree is determinate and I used to top those to clone.
they say deep roots good for drought conditions,and may actually taste better restricting the fluid input.
I would agree that deep roots would be good for drought, not from experience, but just makes sense. This year I get to test something I always wondered about...do tomatoes taste better grown inground than those grown in grow-bags/straw bales/containers? My feeling is tomatoes will have a better taste inground so my neighbor will be growing inground and myself will grow some of the same varieties in grow-bags.

Oh, and I get to see if I can successfully clone this year, too. I accidently broke off the only plant I have for a tomato called "Justine" which I was growing out for seed. I was heartbroken so I stuck the top part in starter mix and it seems like it's growing now. It will be a little behind the other plants but I think I can still get some tomatoes for these precious seeds I need. I miss Tatiana so badly, I relied on her for a lot of these hard to find seeds. I hope she comes back! :(
I hope your clone works out for you. I put a broken tip in a small vial filled with water, as growing medium has not worked for me.

The smallest broken tip that succeeded was only 3/8" long. Only after it establishes new roots do I transfer to growing medium.

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Sat May 27, 2023 7:11 am

I once cloned just from a leaf,so anything is possible.
Use a wet and warm potting soil mix and keep misting the leaves.
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Mon May 29, 2023 6:02 pm

Tormato wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 6:11 am
o0sunsi0o wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:24 am
slugworth wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:54 am
o0sunsi0o wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:13 am In all seriousness, I bet it doesn't taste that bad please, keep us updated how it is. If I had the room I might try it myself. Just went and quickly looked up Heinz 1350 and seed companies have very good things to say about this tomato. One seed source said it's open-pollinated, that was a surprise. I think I will try it next year, making my own ketchup would be a great experience and share it around to friends. It's said to make a good canning tomato as well as for salads, what's not to like! :)
Some sites list it as semi-determinate,I will have to see if it produces a second batch.
For an extended season you can stagger the plantings or keep plucking all the blossoms on a few plants.
Or clone the suckers.
Silvery fir tree is determinate and I used to top those to clone.
they say deep roots good for drought conditions,and may actually taste better restricting the fluid input.
I would agree that deep roots would be good for drought, not from experience, but just makes sense. This year I get to test something I always wondered about...do tomatoes taste better grown inground than those grown in grow-bags/straw bales/containers? My feeling is tomatoes will have a better taste inground so my neighbor will be growing inground and myself will grow some of the same varieties in grow-bags.

Oh, and I get to see if I can successfully clone this year, too. I accidently broke off the only plant I have for a tomato called "Justine" which I was growing out for seed. I was heartbroken so I stuck the top part in starter mix and it seems like it's growing now. It will be a little behind the other plants but I think I can still get some tomatoes for these precious seeds I need. I miss Tatiana so badly, I relied on her for a lot of these hard to find seeds. I hope she comes back! :(
I hope your clone works out for you. I put a broken tip in a small vial filled with water, as growing medium has not worked for me.

The smallest broken tip that succeeded was only 3/8" long. Only after it establishes new roots do I transfer to growing medium.

Tormato, the clone has grown a couple inches almost over night, looks healthy and strong with a thick stem. I'm going to chance planting it in a grown bag tomorrow. "Justine" will be the pampered queen of the garden this year as I have high hopes of getting a good supply of seeds to use and share. The only thing I may have done different than you was I put the broken plant in medium right away and kept it well watered. Maybe I should have put plastic over it to help keep moisture in. I've learned that tomatoes are very good and forgiving plants, thankfully.

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Mon May 29, 2023 6:08 pm

slugworth wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:11 am I once cloned just from a leaf,so anything is possible.
Use a wet and warm potting soil mix and keep misting the leaves.
Amazing! If I had been smarter in my youth I would have studied horticulture as I love working with plants. It's a useful thing to know, I remember when I was a kid digging up seedlings in the forest and bring them home to replant in the yard. I learned the relationship between ants and aphids on one such seedling. Nowadays, I imagine I would have sprayed something to kill the aphids.

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Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:22 pm

slugworth wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 2:48 pm I talked myself into buying a heinz 1350 plant today even tho determinate type.
Good enough for heinz,good enough for me?
We shall see.
I has a green tomato on it (it had blossoms when I bought it) but the plant is the same size as when I bought it.
Dwarf?
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Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:31 am

What about a person that can't even recognize a tomato plant that has tomatoes on it?
I ran across that yesterday with my neighbor.
He wanted to know what was on the tomato plants and asked what they were.
Not what kind of tomato but what they were.
His mother didn't like tomatoes and she passed her dislike of different vegetables and ignorance of food down to her two sons.
He didn't know what my bean vines were either.
He's my age.
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Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:08 pm

No comment haha

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Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:07 pm

When we were taking our plants to the garden to transplant I managed to break off most of Blondkopfchen, the only cherry I had gotten to germinate at the time. This thread taught me I could get it to grow roots and it did and now is happily settled into the garden!
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DriftlessRoots wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:07 pm When we were taking our plants to the garden to transplant I managed to break off most of Blondkopfchen, the only cherry I had gotten to germinate at the time. This thread taught me I could get it to grow roots and it did and now is happily settled into the garden!
I learned it by an unfortunate accident same as you. Update: the "Justine" that I loped off is doing great, actually better than my other tomatoes, it has such vigor and the thickest stem of all the others. It has such growth and leaves that are green and healthy. My only complaint is that I have it sited where the birds sit overhead somewhere after eating fruit from my mulberry tree. :roll:

I'm growing "Blondkopfchen" for the first time this year after watching reviews of it at YouTube. The guy said he prefers it over "SunGold", not necessarily for taste alone, but because the fruit hangs better and it doesn't split as badly as "SunGold". So happy you were able to save your plant as I know the heart-stopping reaction I had when the something happened to me.

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AlittleSalt wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:30 pm Without reading anything but the thread title - PORTER! It's the best 100%.
I just looked up "Porter" and it shows two different kinds of tomatoes, one is plum looking type and another looks like a round beefsteak type. I would really like to try this but want to get the correct one. For the one it says that it's vigorous and does well in TX.

I'm sorry if I missed your post...or even worse if I already answered your post and now answering it twice. :? :)

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Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:11 am

o0sunsi0o wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:42 pm
DriftlessRoots wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:07 pm When we were taking our plants to the garden to transplant I managed to break off most of Blondkopfchen, the only cherry I had gotten to germinate at the time. This thread taught me I could get it to grow roots and it did and now is happily settled into the garden!
I learned it by an unfortunate accident same as you. Update: the "Justine" that I loped off is doing great, actually better than my other tomatoes, it has such vigor and the thickest stem of all the others. It has such growth and leaves that are green and healthy. My only complaint is that I have it sited where the birds sit overhead somewhere after eating fruit from my mulberry tree. :roll:

I'm growing "Blondkopfchen" for the first time this year after watching reviews of it at YouTube. The guy said he prefers it over "SunGold", not necessarily for taste alone, but because the fruit hangs better and it doesn't split as badly as "SunGold". So happy you were able to save your plant as I know the heart-stopping reaction I had when the something happened to me.
I have a mulberry tree in my garden, too.

After gorging themselves on the fruit, the birds will perch on my tomato stakes. My plants are often dotted with the 'purple peril'.

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Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:02 pm

Mulberries are from several species, the best flavored arguably Morus Nigra - the black mulberry. I'm going to set one out in my front yard in a few minutes.

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Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:43 pm

o0sunsi0o wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
AlittleSalt wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:30 pm Without reading anything but the thread title - PORTER! It's the best 100%.
I just looked up "Porter" and it shows two different kinds of tomatoes, one is plum looking type and another looks like a round beefsteak type. I would really like to try this but want to get the correct one. For the one it says that it's vigorous and does well in TX.

I'm sorry if I missed your post...or even worse if I already answered your post and now answering it twice. :? :)
It's confusing. My understanding is that there is Porter/Charles Herring strain of Porter (a 1 oz cherry) and Porter improved/Porter's Pride (a 2-4 oz saladette). Since the original Porter nursery in Stephenville Texas (where they developed several varieties which incorporated the name "Porter" in the variety name) went out of business in the early 90's, lots of people are selling all the varieties they developed there simply as "Porter" tomatoes. Supposedly, Charles Herring bought seeds directly at the nursery then saved seeds for decades, so this variety probably is the original variety.

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Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:58 pm

Fusion_power wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:02 pm Mulberries are from several species, the best flavored arguably Morus Nigra - the black mulberry. I'm going to set one out in my front yard in a few minutes.
Morus Nigra is one fascinating polyploid.

I have an alba X rubra cross, Silk Hope. The year I planted it, It went from a couple of feet tall to about 6 feet, with branches that also grew about 6 feet long. Then in October we had a snowstorm of 6 plus inches. The snow weighed the still leaf covered limbs all the way to the ground. There wan't any damage the next day so I just left it alone. The following day, the trunk cracked a bit, so I removed all of the snow from the tree and let the limbs get back upright.

The following year a new shoot started growing from the base, so I just let it grow. Did it come from the root stock or from the graft? Today it's a double trunk, and I believe there are subtle differences in flavor from each half of the tree, with the unknown half tasting slightly better. They both taste fantastic to me. I eat them in the mostly black/still slightly red stage (tangy/sweet) and in the full black stage (very sweet). When eating mulberries, I don't even want to go over to the black raspberries or raspberries.

On a side note, the chipmunks have discovered the fruit. Watching them, for every 20 fruit they chew, they will spit out about 19. With my own eating of the fruit, I found about 1 in 20 were pollinated and therefore had seeds. I figured that is what the chipmunks were going for, the seeded ones. The last couple of years, the fruit is starting to get out of reach, and several birds basically live in the tree, eating just about everything. Next year I plan to root some cuttings and maybe do some air grafting.

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o0sunsi0o wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
AlittleSalt wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:30 pm Without reading anything but the thread title - PORTER! It's the best 100%.
I just looked up "Porter" and it shows two different kinds of tomatoes, one is plum looking type and another looks like a round beefsteak type. I would really like to try this but want to get the correct one. For the one it says that it's vigorous and does well in TX.

I'm sorry if I missed your post...or even worse if I already answered your post and now answering it twice. :? :)
Wow, it has been a long time since I posted. The original Porter tomato is a cherry tomato. It's not plum looking. It was developed back in the early 1900's to grow in Texas high heat and humidity. As far as a beefsteak sized one - I haven't seen one, but anything is possible.
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Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:45 am

My unknown potato-leaf variety. :?: Med-large (some of them, anyway); slightly pink; somewhat flattened. Not much fluting/creasing at the top if any (Is that the correct term...). Sweet taste. No salt needed, it's that tasty.

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@BlackKrim are you the same BlackKrim from TV?
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Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:10 pm

Hi, MissS. I do not even know who BlackKrim from TV is.

I grew Black Krim this year for the first time and while most of them have cracks and have white stuff inside, are really quite tasty. I had no idea for a screen name so Black Krim was as good as anything!

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@BlackKrim MissS meant, did you post on Tomatoville as username BlackKrim?

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