Ukraine Varieties for Themed Garden

[OhioGardener]

I'd participate in a Ukrainian growout. As mentioned above, one of the challenges is seed source vs. variety origin and sometimes there are conflicting sources of information. For example, the Minusinsk Basin where many of the Minusinsk varieties referenced above originated is in southern Siberian which is not Ukraine. Obviously it would take too much time to research them all, but if there are particular varieties people are interested in growing, I can offer to look them up in Russian language which sometimes provides detailed information on cultivar history including the name of the person or institution who developed it.

[Dee]

There is a rocambole garlic variety called Kiev which (not surprisingly) originated in Ukraine. I got a few bulbils in a variety pack from Seeds of Diversity (Canada) a number of years ago. Rocamboles are a bit tricky in our climate (zone 2/3) but I managed to carry a few cloves over and planted them in the fall.

I haven't been able to find much information about this variety, though have read it is also sometimes listed as "Kjev" or "Kyjev" garlic. If you do a search for it, including the word, "rocambole" seems to bring up more accurate results.

[OhioGardener]

Speaking of garlic, I recently bought this one and it turns out to be a special variety from a folk breeder. It'll definitely be in my garden this year.

https://lyubasha.com.ua/about/

[OhioGardener]

These are the non-tomato varieties that I have that I've confirmed to be Ukrainian in origin:

Pepper:
Gold Scythian - sweet

Carrot:
Krasavka (high carotene)

Squash (summer):
Odessa

Squash (vining pumpkin):
Kavbuz
Ukrainskyy Siryy
Lel
Khersonskiy

Watermelon:
Borisfen

Cucumber:
Dekan

Lettuce:
Odessa Curly

[greenthumbomaha]

I never thought this thread would spur an immediate call to action, so to speak. Such detailed compilations of tomatoes and other vegetables and a plan to defeat the potential loss of a countries agricultural heritage is invaluable, truly a mission close to the heart. I want to thank everyone for their generous offers to organize grow outs and provide seeds. Please count me in for the grow out and THANK YOU to those who have offered to take a leadership role in organizing and contributing to this effort.

- Lisa

[HL2601]

OK! Three or 4 is enough to start a UKRAINE TRIBUTE GROW OUT.

I will do a post.
It's not much, I know, but it's something to raise awareness.


Debbie-thanks for sending us all your varieties research- I updated the master list a few posts ago.
Lisa- Thanks for sharing your initial quest with us to spur on the grow out. Small ideas can become wonderful bigger things!

[bower]

There must be wheat!
Read this article this morning: Our debt to Ukraine.
https://www.camascountrymill.com/from-the-farm/red-fife
Red Fife is probably the most grown and best loved grain in Canadian history, and the basis for many cultivars that were bred from it. The story of Red Fife is that it was a selection from the heirloom wheat Halychanka of Ukraine.
IDK about sources of Halychanka, Canadian sources I found were out of stock.
Just for reference if you have not grown wheat, a typical rate of sowing is around 24 grains per square foot.
And grain is really beautiful in the garden.

[MissTee]

I received 'Debbie's Ukrainian Plum' in the MMMM swap. I was planning to grow it to honour my favourite (late) cousin Debbie, who's mother (my Aunt through marriage) is of Ukrainian heritage. The name touched me personally. Now, it has even more meaning.

This one came from me and I'd love to see pictures of how it grows for you. I've labeled it as an "experimental" because I've only grown it out for 2 years and can't be fully certain yet that it's stable. It was the same both years for me though and it definitely originates in Ukraine. The story is that it grew from a seed packet that I purchased as "Yantarniy Med" or "Amber Honey" which it definitely is not. The vendor was Nikitovka which is located in Irpin, Ukraine. In fact, I just got a message from them today because I sent them a note after I saw a video on Twitter of a Russian tank column being destroyed in their town. They're nice people and wrote back saying they're in shock over what's happening (understandably), but they and their employees are OK.

Hi Debbie, it grew a red mid-sized paste, mildly productive in not a great year. What's interesting is that it grew beside Divine Maltese, and I couldn't tell them apart. Same size plant, leaf, fruit, colour. I know many pastes look about the same size and taste similar (dry), so this might be complete coincidence.

Teresa

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[OhioGardener]

Interesting. Well this makes it the 3rd year that it's held its type. I've never grown Divine Maltese and don't ever remember seeing it in Nikitovka's catalog, so I'd be surprised if it were the same. However, who knows. It originated from a seed pack that was supposed to be Yantarniy Med which it's definitely not. I wish now that I had photos of the plant, but unfortunately I just have a few of the fruits.

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[Volvo]

Lisa,
One I love that I posted about on my Instagram is Ukrainian Purple aka Purple Russian. Many people know this one as Purple Russian but it in fact is from Ukraine. Evidently there is another tomato named Purple Russian, so this tomato's name was changed. It is a somewhat wispy leaf, tall plant producing elongated 4-5 oz plum shapes, purple with brick interior. Just an excellent producer and a real gem. I am growing it this year too and will have it at my plant sale as a tribute to Ukraine. If you need seeds please PM me.
Heide

Taste come up Trumps did it ??.

[greenthumbomaha]

One of the few tomatoes that powered thru the spider mite attack and neighbor tree spraying devistation was Purple Russian. Despite its less than stellar location, it pomped out hundreds of 3 inch beautifully colored plum tomatoes with a large nipple, It was a savior for taste in the sauce when all I had otherwise were late season round red hybrids.

- Lisa

[BurgundySnail]

I have the following in my collection that came marked by the original vendor as Ukrainian. A few have some conflicting information about origin online:

Belosnezhka
Black Icicle
Bordovyi
Cheburan (Gurin)
Chris Ukrainian
Lida Ukrainian
Monastyrskaya Trapeza
Olena Ukrainian
Orange Icicle
Purple Russian
Rayskoye Naslazhdeniye - Paradisiac Delight
Slavic Masterpiece
Slivka Gigant Oranzhevaya
Solovey Razboynik
Sosulechka
Sosulka Rozovaya
Soviet
Spy Dean’s orange striped
Stambul - Istanbul
Sun Sardegna
Tarasenko Oranzheviy
Tarasenko Yubileyniy (Tarasenko Anniversary)
Tryufel Chornyy-Black Truffle Trifele
Tryufel Zhovtyy - Yellow Truffle Trifele
Tsitrusovyy Sad-Citrus
Ukrainka
Ukrainskaya Olena
Vasylyna
Velmozha-Magnate
Viziry
Volove Serdtse
Amber Colored
Amurskiy Tigr
Appetitnyy
Barhatniy Pizhon
Barhatniy Pizhon
Berli Delikates
Druzhba - Friendship
Fiesta
Fioletovyy
Gospodar
Gothic
Granula
Iskorka - Sparkle
Kemerovets
Kibits
Kiyv Ukrainian
Kievskie Zori
Klondaik
Kolonnada
Komnatniy, Ocharovanie - Indoor Charm
Korol Rannikh
Kovboi
Kremenchugskiy - Kremenchug
Kyiv - Grad
Kyiv 139
Lyana Early Original
Lyana Rozovyy
Lyubymyy
Malinovaya Rossyp
Malinovka
Malinovka - Crimson
Malynove Vikante
Maryushka (LOW)
Oligarkh - Oligarch
Pridneprovskiy Rozoviy
Prima
Renet
Regina
Romantika
Sadovaya Zhemchuzhina Rozovaya
Sakharnyy Pudovichok
Sanka Original
Shakhtersky
Sharpei Pink
Sonyachna Komora
Solerosso
Stella
Vechnyy Zov
Vezunchik
Vidimo-Nevidimo
Yana
Yefemer - Ephemera
Zolotoy Potok "Golden Stream"
Zolotye Kupola - Golden Domes
Kalvados
Nadia Tarasenko
Capella
Icicle Pink
Crimson Potato
Pink Plum
Blue Pear
Faberge
Kitayskiy Oksamitoviy
Olimp Malinovyi

Are you participating in 2024/2025 swap? I would love some of those varieties for next year

[Tormato]

I have the following in my collection that came marked by the original vendor as Ukrainian. A few have some conflicting information about origin online:

Belosnezhka
Black Icicle
Bordovyi
Cheburan (Gurin)
Chris Ukrainian
Lida Ukrainian
Monastyrskaya Trapeza
Olena Ukrainian
Orange Icicle
Purple Russian
Rayskoye Naslazhdeniye - Paradisiac Delight
Slavic Masterpiece
Slivka Gigant Oranzhevaya
Solovey Razboynik
Sosulechka
Sosulka Rozovaya
Soviet
Spy Dean’s orange striped
Stambul - Istanbul
Sun Sardegna
Tarasenko Oranzheviy
Tarasenko Yubileyniy (Tarasenko Anniversary)
Tryufel Chornyy-Black Truffle Trifele
Tryufel Zhovtyy - Yellow Truffle Trifele
Tsitrusovyy Sad-Citrus
Ukrainka
Ukrainskaya Olena
Vasylyna
Velmozha-Magnate
Viziry
Volove Serdtse
Amber Colored
Amurskiy Tigr
Appetitnyy
Barhatniy Pizhon
Barhatniy Pizhon
Berli Delikates
Druzhba - Friendship
Fiesta
Fioletovyy
Gospodar
Gothic
Granula
Iskorka - Sparkle
Kemerovets
Kibits
Kiyv Ukrainian
Kievskie Zori
Klondaik
Kolonnada
Komnatniy, Ocharovanie - Indoor Charm
Korol Rannikh
Kovboi
Kremenchugskiy - Kremenchug
Kyiv - Grad
Kyiv 139
Lyana Early Original
Lyana Rozovyy
Lyubymyy
Malinovaya Rossyp
Malinovka
Malinovka - Crimson
Malynove Vikante
Maryushka (LOW)
Oligarkh - Oligarch
Pridneprovskiy Rozoviy
Prima
Renet
Regina
Romantika
Sadovaya Zhemchuzhina Rozovaya
Sakharnyy Pudovichok
Sanka Original
Shakhtersky
Sharpei Pink
Sonyachna Komora
Solerosso
Stella
Vechnyy Zov
Vezunchik
Vidimo-Nevidimo
Yana
Yefemer - Ephemera
Zolotoy Potok "Golden Stream"
Zolotye Kupola - Golden Domes
Kalvados
Nadia Tarasenko
Capella
Icicle Pink
Crimson Potato
Pink Plum
Blue Pear
Faberge
Kitayskiy Oksamitoviy
Olimp Malinovyi

Are you participating in 2024/2025 swap? I would love some of those varieties for next year

Annnnddd... we've had our first shark sighting of the year.

[BurgundySnail]

@Tormato I am new and I don't know what that means! But but do I want to know?

Just in case - I don't want all those, but I would love like 5 varieties from that list... Ok ok! I want 10... And thinking about other 5...

[MissS]

Watch out @Tormato with that handle she's sitting right at the waters edge!

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[Tormato]

Chief doesn't go in the water.