Sprouting grocery store seeds.

[slugworth]

Having second thoughts because it actually tastes yucky,which is strange for vine ripe.

[slugworth]

The sundried tomatoes I planted one had SER (Stem End Rot) and I did an autopsy on it.
It was a 3 chamber variety with thick skin ideal for stuffing, if it tastes good.
I covered plants with a plastic drop cloth because we are supposed to have a frost this week.
One plant has green tomatoes in the 6-8oz range just eyeballing it.

[slugworth]

It still looks the same as when I cut it open yesterday.
If it tastes good, it might be a good tomato for mac salad or other salads that stay in the fridge for days
until it tries to open the door by itself.

[TX-TomatoBug]

I found this lovely recently in the small "heirloom" collection at Whole Foods Market in central TX. My best newbie guess is Striped German. It had a gentle sweet flavor and smooth texture. Couldn't resist saving seed to play with, of course knowing that it might not really be heirloom or even OP.

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[slugworth]

I was going to say German Queen but that looks meatier.
The seedlings may be PL or RL which would be more telling.

[TX-TomatoBug]

@slugworth, yes, the leaves will help narrow it down - thanks for that.

It was definitely a red-yellow bicolor. The yellow is a bit muted in the photos.

[slugworth]

I saw one today in the heirloom section of Big Y market.
Hothouse heirloom tomatoes greenhouse grown in Canada.
Too pricey @ $5.99 lb for a specimen than was getting mushy.
Too bad the store doesn't have a reduced section for produce.
I would have bought it just for the seed.

[slugworth]

Seedlings may be PL and RL
in that case I pledge my allegiance to the PL seedlings and let the RL croak.

[slugworth]

At a greenhouse one time a woman was asking me about a pink variety (unknown to her) for possible sauce making.
I think that one is meaty but the sauce would look anemic.

[worth1]

Paprika

[slugworth]

Too bad the suppliers couldn't slap a label on them like they do for plums and nectarines.
A few of the heirlooms had labels that just said heirloom greenhouse grown.
Or the greenhouse name,so you could get a list of what they produce and track it down that way.

[TX-TomatoBug]

Yep, it would've been nice to track it down. I did ask a store employee about them, but all he could tell me is that they were grown in the USA. Oh well. Maybe someday I will buy some Striped German seed to compare with what I've saved.

[DriftlessRoots]

Tried growing some different beans this year and learned something fascinating. I planted some of Rancho Gordo's Frijol Negro Santanero grown in Oaxaca in my milpa-inspired bed. They grew like crazy climbing the sorghum I used in place of corn and I was actually afraid they'd outpace their supports. Funny thing was, though, they didn't flower at all all summer long. Super healthy looking plants but not a single bloom--until after the autumn equinox. I did some digging around and learned that many common beans are daylight sensitive and won't produce in long-day climates like mine. This variety grows fine thirty degrees south of here but not in Wisconsin. I faced the same thing when I tried to grow oca, a tuber from the Andes. Didn't form tubers until very late in the season and it was a race to see if I'd get anything at all before frost. When dealing with tropical plants, temperature isn't the only thing one needs to consider.

Here's a picture of the beans growing on the sorghum. The butternut squash planted below them is creeping out on the right.

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[worth1]

Tried growing some different beans this year and learned something fascinating. I planted some of Rancho Gordo's Frijol Negro Santanero grown in Oaxaca in my milpa-inspired bed. They grew like crazy climbing the sorghum I used in place of corn and I was actually afraid they'd outpace their supports. Funny thing was, though, they didn't flower at all all summer long. Super healthy looking plants but not a single bloom--until after the autumn equinox. I did some digging around and learned that many common beans are daylight sensitive and won't produce in long-day climates like mine. This variety grows fine thirty degrees south of here but not in Wisconsin. I faced the same thing when I tried to grow oca, a tuber from the Andes. Didn't form tubers until very late in the season and it was a race to see if I'd get anything at all before frost. When dealing with tropical plants, temperature isn't the only thing one needs to consider.

Here's a picture of the beans growing on the sorghum. The butternut squash planted below them is creeping out on the right.

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I had the same thing happen to me with some beans normally grown in Peru.
But it's complicated because the beans I bought my former neighbor from Chile knew all about them.
But if I look up the name that was on the bag it shows up as cranberry or Roman beans.
These are not Roman beans.
They are a dark red with darker stripes and more round.
They are also very ferm even after cooking for awhile.
They didn't make one single bloom but the leaves were as big s dinner plates.
This is what they look like.

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[worth1]

I pulled this off the Internet.
It was a long paper so I just took this part out.
Bring these types of beans supposedly originated in Columbia maybe that puts me way far too north to grow them.

" bean accessions, as well as most Andean cultivars, are mainly photoperiod sensitive (short-day response), whereas Mesoamerican cultivars are mostly less sensitive to photoperiod, or day-neutral (White and Laing 1989)."

[slugworth]

A carrot in the bag that was putting out greens at the end I topped and planted the stub in a container with a tomato clone to keep it company.
It is still alive after about 6 weeks and is putting out greens under a curly 100w fluorescent daylight bulb.
I expect it to bolt like lettuce cores do, but will make a queen Anne's lace type flower plant.
I dipped it in cinnamon as a rooting compound experiment.

blossom stage now like queen Anne's lace,I don't know how long it will live as a houseplant.

[GoDawgs]

I pulled this off the Internet.
It was a long paper so I just took this part out.
Bring these types of beans supposedly originated in Columbia maybe that puts me way far too north to grow them.

" bean accessions, as well as most Andean cultivars, are mainly photoperiod sensitive (short-day response), whereas Mesoamerican cultivars are mostly less sensitive to photoperiod, or day-neutral (White and Laing 1989)."

This might explain why the pigeon peas I bought in '22 at a Caribbean grocery never produced anything, not even flowers. I had read that they are a perennial legume in tropical/semi-tropical areas. Of course, they wouldn't be perennial here but I thought I'd like to try a few just for grins and giggles.The plants got really big but that's about it.

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