A Hybrid That Is Better Than Big Beef

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Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:34 pm

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friedgreen51 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:42 pm I planted 3 Mountain Rouge Tomatoes this year. It is a hybrid release from Dr. Randy Gardner at North Carolina State University. ‘Mountain Rouge’, the F1 hybrid of NC 161L × ‘Pink Brandywine’, resulted from a tomato breeding effort initiated in 2005 to develop a superior heirloom-type, pink-fruited tomato hybrid with improved fruit quality and late blight resistance.
I have been so impressed with this tomato. It tastes great (in my opinion superior to Big Beef), is disease resistant and is still pumping out tomatoes and blooming here in early August in hot and humid North Carolina. I have only sprayed this tomato once. I used Daconil and it still looks great.

Here is what AAS says about this tomato:
2019 AAS Edible-Vegetable Winner
A beautiful new pink tomato in the “Mountain” series has excellent flavor and a very robust disease package of verticillium, fusarium, nematodes, and Late Blight. Gardeners will enjoy a generous harvest of large, beefsteak tomatoes weighing 12-14 oz. that have a great tomato taste with just the right balance of acid and sugar. Indeterminate plants produce heavily in just 73 days from transplant and they do especially well in cooler climates. This fleshy tomato has minimal seeds and slices very well for true summer dining enjoyment.

Mountain Rouge Tomato 8 4 2020.jpg

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Ken4230 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:59 pm I am impressed with the pictures as much as anything. May have to try them next year. Brenda likes round red baseball sized tomatoes so i have grown Big Beef since they were introduced. Got tired of buying seeds all the time so I thought I would try to stabilize BB. I am at F5 now, size and taste has improved (buddy called me last week raving about a tomato he had just eaten). It was one of the BB I had given him. I hope the heat tolerance and disease resistance is still there. Time will tell, if I live that long.
How is youre selection proces for Big beef?
How many do u grow every generation and what segregation do u see?

Big beef is already a long time available so i wonder how many people already stabilize it.

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Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:39 pm

Doffer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:33 am
Ken4230 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:59 pm I am impressed with the pictures as much as anything. May have to try them next year. Brenda likes round red baseball sized tomatoes so i have grown Big Beef since they were introduced. Got tired of buying seeds all the time so I thought I would try to stabilize BB. I am at F5 now, size and taste has improved (buddy called me last week raving about a tomato he had just eaten). It was one of the BB I had given him. I hope the heat tolerance and disease resistance is still there. Time will tell, if I live that long.
How is youre selection proces for Big beef?
How many do u grow every generation and what segregation do u see?


Big beef is already a long time available so i wonder how many people already stabilize it.
At least 6 each year, taste each tomato both large and small. Plug them like a watermelon to get full taste. If I find one with exceptional taste those seeds are saved separately and marked appropriately. I think I have 14 separate BB seed packets right now. If I happen to find two with exceptional taste on the same plant, I pick the biggest and prettiest half dozen and save those seeds together.

Seem to ripen later and not as deep a red until fully ripe. Last 2 years, with all the rain I have had to pick at first blush, which has complicated things somewhat. I am basically an amateur at this, although I do have some experience with peppers.

Big Beef Plus is a hybrid, I think. As inquisitive as tomato growers are, surely someone has already stabilized BB. I posted a request for advice on how to proceed. Think I have got it figured out now.

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Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:02 am

Nice selection where you mainly select on taste. Do you also have disease pressure so that you selected this?

There will probably be more BB-op versions and they will all probably differ because everyone selects differently.

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Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:35 pm

Doffer wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:02 am Nice selection where you mainly select on taste. Do you also have disease pressure so that you selected this?

There will probably be more BB-op versions and they will all probably differ because everyone selects differently.

Normally not a lot of diseases but with the excessive rain(30+ inches in the last 7 weeks). A lot of my early planted tomatoes are suffering.
Have been pretty successful in improving the taste, at least I think so. My primary objective was to improve the taste while maintaining the size. I have had a few small ones with exceptional taste, those I am still working on.

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