Jardín del Gotch

Free for all about gardening techniques, tips and questions.
User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Jardín del Gotch

#1

Post: # 70081Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Fri May 20, 2022 6:51 am

Committed To The Deep 05/19/2022:

CUKES
*Sweet Success-4
*Diva-2

PEPPERS [Containers]
*Gypsy-5
*Roulette-3

SQUARSH
*Waltham Butternut Squarsh-10

TOMATOES
*Amish Paste-3 (05/13)
*Ananas Noire-2
*Daniel Burson-2
*Mortgage Lifter-3 (05/13)
*Mountain Magic-3 (05/13)
*Opalka-4
*Rose-2
*Sausage-1
*Stump Of The World-4
*Yaqui-5

The Gotch
Last edited by Cornelius_Gotchberg on Sat May 21, 2022 11:42 am, edited 1 time in total.
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
karstopography
Reactions:
Posts: 8369
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:15 am
Location: Southeast Texas

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#2

Post: # 70095Unread post karstopography
Fri May 20, 2022 12:34 pm

Strong looking lineup. Actually, I’ve only grown Amish Paste and Gypsy. Are all these your old and reliable standards?

Anyway, good luck, I know getting plants set out the garden feels terrific.
Zone 9b, located in the Columbia bottomlands, annual rainfall 46”

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#3

Post: # 70129Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Fri May 20, 2022 5:52 pm

@karstopography; "Anyway, good luck, I know getting plants set out the garden feels terrific."

Yeah buddy! And the sentiment is appreciated...I intone jealously from four (4) growing zones away...

Amish Paste (a WESconsin developed variety) is a sophomore/2nd year selection, same with Gypsy; the later recommended as a container-friendly choice.

Any variety can make through the door; earning the right to stick 'round is something different thing entirely, am I right?

The Gotch
Last edited by Cornelius_Gotchberg on Fri May 20, 2022 7:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#4

Post: # 70130Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Fri May 20, 2022 6:13 pm

Committed to the deep 05/20/2022:

PEPPERS:
*Carmen Hybrid-5
*Giant Aconcagua-3
*Giant Marconi-2
*Goliath Sweet Hybrid-1
*Jimmy Nardello-4
​*Mama Mia Giallo Hybrid-5
*Sweet Banana-4
*Sweet Sunset Hybrid-4
*?-1

SQUARSH:
Black Beauty Green Zuke-4
Golden Yellow Zuke-4

TOMATOES:
*Ananas Noire-1
*Giant Garden Paste-1
*Greenbush Italian-1
*Jersey Devil-1
*San Marzano-3
*Sheboygan Heirloom-2

Now? It's Miller Time!

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#5

Post: # 70414Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Tue May 24, 2022 5:46 pm

The last three (3) trays of Tomatoes and one (1) of Peppers have been transferred to the porch for hardening off.

Despite this being the natural progression, I must confess some wistfulness about no longer needing to go downstairs to tend them.

The Gotch
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#6

Post: # 70566Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Fri May 27, 2022 5:51 pm

Don't know about the rest of you's, but this season's Tomato Seedling availability in these here parts has SUCKED...BIG TIME!

The Tomato Seedling supplier for my GO TO Tomato Seedling supplier (Jung's West) went belly up with no warning, leaving them with THE most pitiable selection I've ever seen. C'mon, they've been reduced to selling "plugs", thimble size plants that look like...something better left unsaid.

One of our perennial faves (Mountain Merit/MM) can't be found for LUV-nor money. I was teased by another supplier that a truck coming in today would have some; a disappointing phone call revealed that their supplier had cancelled the MM selection.

Left with but two (2) choices: Curling up into a fetal...or...Adapt...Improvise...Overcome. Opting for the latter, I replaced them with a family member (Mountain Pride), and another tantalizing prospect with (IMO) an irresistibly eye-catching name (Box Car Willie); a variety which I've always wanted to try.

Anyone have any experience with 'em?

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Shule
Reactions:
Posts: 3057
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:29 pm
Location: SW Idaho, USA

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#7

Post: # 70593Unread post Shule
Sat May 28, 2022 6:39 am

@Cornelius_Gotchberg
I've tried Box Car Willie, but I crowded my plants and I couldn't find it in the jungle. So, the most I can say is that it probably isn't the most aggressive tomato out of those I've grown. I have a friend who gave me the seeds; she grew it, and is a connoisseur for tomato taste; so, she probably heard something good about it, if she grew it.

Never tried Mountain Pride, but Sausage is a favorite for production.
Location: SW Idaho, USA
Climate: BSk
USDA hardiness zone: 6
Elevation: 2,260 feet

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#8

Post: # 70598Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Sat May 28, 2022 7:13 am

@Shule; "I crowded my plants"

Sigh; some of that been going on here as well; you'd think I'd learn....

"Sausage is a favorite for production."

Had GREAT luck and extraordinary yield with the Red Sausage (https://seedsnsuch.com/products/red-sau ... mato-seeds) from Seeds-n-Such in 2021.

Unfortunately, they were out-of-stock this year and the "sausage" seeds I got through Etsy were a flippin' disaster; one (1) plant out of 5 or 6 starts.

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Shule
Reactions:
Posts: 3057
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:29 pm
Location: SW Idaho, USA

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#9

Post: # 70617Unread post Shule
Sat May 28, 2022 3:48 pm

@Cornelius_Gotchberg
This is the Sausage that I grew:
https://www.timelesstomatoes.store/list ... 75-day-red

It does do a lot better in some soil than others. It gets a big plant when it does well.
Location: SW Idaho, USA
Climate: BSk
USDA hardiness zone: 6
Elevation: 2,260 feet

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#10

Post: # 70620Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Sat May 28, 2022 4:03 pm

@Shule; they look the same...last year my plants grew to over six (6) feet/1.83 meters.

Had space for four (4) this season...sigh...maybe next year.

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
GoDawgs
Reactions:
Posts: 4289
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:38 am
Location: Zone 8a, Augusta GA

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#11

Post: # 70622Unread post GoDawgs
Sat May 28, 2022 4:18 pm

Cornelius_Gotchberg wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 5:46 pm The last three (3) trays of Tomatoes and one (1) of Peppers have been transferred to the porch for hardening off.

Despite this being the natural progression, I must confess some wistfulness about no longer needing to go downstairs to tend them.

The Gotch
The gardener's version of Empty Nest Syndrome. :D

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#12

Post: # 70625Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Sat May 28, 2022 5:59 pm

@GoDawgs; "The gardener's version of Empty Nest Syndrome"

The situation has...um...evolved.

After three (3) days on an unseasonably cool, sunless porch, and a very noticeable appearance/health downturn, I made the command decision to return them to the light-warmth-humidity of the covered, well-lit Seed Starter Rack; where they remain as we speak.

Never did that before, hope to never do it again; it violates a certain "Natural Progression," am I right?

Anywho, I'm thinking they go back out on the porch tomorrow, when the naturally supplied light-warmth-humidity (tomorrow 84°F/29°C--Memorial Day 90°F/32.2°C) return.

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
bower
Reactions:
Posts: 6218
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:44 pm
Location: Newfoundland, Canada

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#13

Post: # 70627Unread post bower
Sat May 28, 2022 6:09 pm

You're not the only one dancing that two step this season. ;)
AgCan Zone 5a/USDA zone 4
temperate marine climate
yearly precip 61 inches/1550 mm

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#14

Post: # 70629Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Sat May 28, 2022 6:45 pm

@Bower; "You're not the only one dancing that two step this season."

The sentiment's much appreciated!

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
jmsieglaff
Reactions:
Posts: 296
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:07 pm
Location: Southern Wisconsin

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#15

Post: # 70634Unread post jmsieglaff
Sat May 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Good luck with the two step! I hadn’t gone to Jung since I got my seed starting stuff early spring. Sounds like the mater selection was horrible. Lots of maters for sale this AM at the Dane County Farmers Market. My first indeterminate flower will open tomorrow—Sungold.

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#16

Post: # 70650Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Sun May 29, 2022 7:08 am

@jmsieglaff; "Sounds like the mater selection was horrible."

The drop-off from the usual is positively breathtaking!

Good, if boring, selection at Felly's Nesbitt & Bruce's in Middleton.

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#17

Post: # 71015Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:51 pm

Apologize for the lousy lack-of-clarity, but these here are the last Johnny_Come_Lately Tomato-n-Pepper "starts" Chaise Lounging in the early evening sun, as they prepare to be committed to the soil.
thumbnail_IMG_1363.jpg
[/url]

The Gotch
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#18

Post: # 71151Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:46 am

Wrapped up planting yesterday;
PEPPERS:
Giant Aconcagua (2)
Giant Marconi (2)
Goliath Sweet (1)

TOMATOES:
Cornue des Andes Heirloom (2)
Ernie's Plump (2)
Giant Garden Paste Hybrid (1)
Greenbush Italian Heirloom (1)
Guido Heirloom (2)
Inzhir Rozovyi (2)
Italian Gold (2)
Jersey Devil (1)
Marzano Fire (2)
Santa Maria Heirloom (2)
Sheboygan Heirloom (1)
Sun Gold Hybrid (2)
Teton de Venus (1)
​Uncle Steve's Italian (1)

Special Shoutout to @Tormato & @MissS for their time, efforts, infinite patience...and sending seeds for varieties I couldn't even spell, much less be aware of their existence!

The Gotch
Last edited by Cornelius_Gotchberg on Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:10 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

User avatar
MissS
Reactions:
Posts: 6307
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:55 am
Location: SE Wisconsin Zone 5b

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#19

Post: # 71157Unread post MissS
Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:48 am

You have a great line up there Gotch. I can't wait to here how these all do for you. I'm happy to see some of these growing because I haven't seen them on people's lists in several years. Hopefully some of the seeds will make it to the MMMM this year!
~ Patti ~
AKA ~ Hooper

User avatar
Cornelius_Gotchberg
Reactions:
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:19 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Jardín del Gotch

#20

Post: # 71182Unread post Cornelius_Gotchberg
Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:30 pm

@MissS; the Ananas Noire & Daniel Bursons are caged-n-thriving, and actually moved up from their infant stakes to their teen-age/medium sized one's. The Roses is catching up, but, regrettably, the Winsall failed to launch.

My Seed Saving efforts are still a Work In Progress, but I do have some Namio Heirloom seeds set aside that I'll be sending both you & @Tormato.

Had you's guys ever heard of it before, other than from me?

The Gotch
Madison WESconsin/Growing Zone 5-A/Raised beds above the Midvale Heights spade-caking clay in the 77 Square Miles surrounded by A Sea Of Reality

Post Reply

Return to “General Discussion”